Comment on It's a wild life out there!

• kahjtheundedicated@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Gotten shot and killed by lowest-bidder wannabe cops, who faced zero consequences. And our wannabe dictator said there would be no consequences for killing protesters. The reality is living conditions aren’t bad enough yet for most people to be willing to risk that.

  So as it turns out, violence and fear tactics do work…

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  • PlasticExistence@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I’ve often been surprised at how living in America is perceived by the world. I’ve met a lot of people from all over the world, and while some have actually spent enough time here to understand the good and the bad. The rest who have not seem to believe in the shiny veneer that we export in our movies and television.

    We are absolute wage slaves here. We are one missed paycheck from homelessness. But sure, blame the slaves for not overthrowing their owners.

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    • PlaidBaron@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I dont understand the logic though so please help me here. I have lived in the US and do have a good idea of how shitty things are (or were even back then). Things will not improve by inaction and are objectively getting worse. So yes, you risk a lot by acting but if you dont your life will continue to get worse and you’ll end up homeless anyway? Or worse.

      No one is coming to save you. You live in the most powerful country in the world. Nobody is going to come in and liberate you. Your only option is to save yourself.

      Nobody is claiming it will be easy, simple, or clean. But what other option is left? This is why the rest of us are baffled. Especially since the US has built up the reputation of having a rebellious spirit. Where is that spirit now?

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      • PlasticExistence@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I can make this simple: would you be the first to step in front of the firing squad when you have no idea if others will join you in rushing it?

        We are not a united people here.

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      • SarahValentine@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        No one is coming to save you.

        Yeah, because they’re all too busy enacting fascism in their own country to do anything about the growing US threat except lick boots.

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    • Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      You are wage slaves who have a higher standard of living than the other wage slaves that are exploited in order to enable the availability of cheap consumer goods which keep the people docile.

      This is about the English (and written in 1882) but now also applies to the USA:

      Engels wrote: “You ask me what the English workers think about colonial policy. Well, exactly the same as they think about politics in general. There is no workers’ party here, there are only Conservatives and Liberal-Radicals, and the workers gaily share the feast of England’s monopoly of the world market and the colonies.”

      This is an expert from Lenin: Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism which I think should be read prior to Settlers if only to disarm the reader from defensiveness. Sakai didn’t invent the idea of the bourgeoisie proletariat, he was building on the ideas of others.

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      • nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        The Chinese aren’t protesting either. For similar reasons too.

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      • arrow74@lemmy.zip ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’d rather have less buying power to buy useless shit I don’t need than to be one paycheck away from homelessness

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  • Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Protests are not the only option, but when asked why Americans are not making meaningful resistance the argument always boils down to: We have protests! Or We can’t protest!

    Perhaps the most cursory look at why these actions are successful in different countries is worth a gander. It’s not that France couldn’t crush every protest with their military.

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    • CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The difference is the US 100% will and won’t even apologize for it. Then the state oligarch run media will say they were “Terrorists”. Hell, the black lives matters protests in Oregon they spent weeks showing the “devastation” the protesters caused, it was like one square block and they had police dressing like protesters instigating the violence so they could disappear people.

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      • Skunk@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Mainstream media are doing exactly the same in France and they all belong to, oh wait, some right wing billionaire.

        It’s almost like someone somewhere is showing the user manual to the others.

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      • Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        News are circling around the 3% (some are allegedly undercover cops, some are from fascist groups, and more ofc.) that break things, so yeah France is doing the same thing. No talk about why, only about that poor person that got their window smashed. 24/7.

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      • Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Did you read the second part of my comment.

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• PlaidBaron@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I think theyre already aware. They just womt do anything of substance to stop it.

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  • Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    If you go your whole life hearing it’s your god given right to have all the privilege and comfort you have (which is still a pittance in comparison to the rich but more than the people exploited to provide cheap goods) it’s hard to risk them.

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• umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  are motherfuckers in the us still not aware of trump???

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  • Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Lol

    But a genuine comment because people think I’m a big meanie:

    It’s helpful to know that folks aren’t alone and also helpful for orgs who are already doing things to improve the material conditions of their community to get some publicity and maybe some new helping hands.

    Maybe then america will realize they have power, and the revolution might not be exactly the same as their last one

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    • umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      it’s also helpful to fight against tyranny though

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      • Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I mean this in the least antagonist way possible: I don’t think anything I said excludes fighting tyranny.

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