Sorry to comment twice. But are you actually real? Like a human with breath and a beating heart? You don’t fundamentally understand that difference here? These people are fighting, the “demonstrations” in America have had zero bite, and any real fight in them has been squashed by their own people. You HAVE to see that.
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cannedtuna@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I mean sure, ignore the protests from earlier this year where millions turned out across the nation, but sure…
Psionicsickness@reddthat.com 12 hours ago
Psionicsickness@reddthat.com 12 hours ago
L the fuck M A O
gastroglizzy@piefed.social 1 day ago
The anti-US psy-op has been very effective here
PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 1 day ago
America is doing a very effective anti-US pay-op by being fucking terrible.
the_q@piefed.social 1 day ago
I’m so tired of this idea that these sparse, scheduled, legal events are considered protests.
decolo@piefed.social 1 day ago
which sparse ones are you referencing? It seems like you are wondering why CNBC isn’t showing you all the local protests even in conservative towns?
the_q@piefed.social 1 day ago
I genuinely do not understand this level of delusion…
Look, these protests are ineffective. Period. They’re nothing more than photo ops for social media. I don’t care if they’re happening everyday and the news isn’t reporting, they are not doing anything to alleviate any of the issues this country is facing.
decolo@piefed.social 1 day ago
Yeah obviously they haven’t successfully overthrown Trump yet. What is delusional about me telling you the revolution will not be televised?
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 13 hours ago
I’m tired of the idea that looting stores and burning public buildings is an effective way to protest.
Most protests in Europe are also legal events. You ask for permit to march through a city. Only in some places rioters started destroying things. So far peaceful protests in Spain forced government to pass housing laws requested by people and call snap elections while all riots in France achieved is curfew.
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 hours ago
Spain has a left wing government (the last time I looked at least) they play by the rules it seems (people ask, government provide as it can).
In France the right have sold out the country to the rich, more or less stole the prime ministers seat (after the snap elections it should have gone to the left, surprise surprise it didn’t) , they couldn’t care less about housing prices and so on.
So when you say france only obtained a curfew you show that you don’t understand those two countries political landscapes.
The fight goes on ✊🏼
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 12 hours ago
So when you say france only obtained a curfew you show that you don’t understand those two countries political landscapes.
What else did they gain? After the riots support Le Pen grew. You really think this is good for the left and our fight?
Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 1 day ago
And did what? They didn’t disrupt anything. Parades on weekends are good for raising awareness, I’m not going to say they are useless. But they are fundamentally different from the other examples given.
kahjtheundedicated@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Gotten shot and killed by lowest-bidder wannabe cops, who faced zero consequences. And our wannabe dictator said there would be no consequences for killing protesters. The reality is living conditions aren’t bad enough yet for most people to be willing to risk that.
So as it turns out, violence and fear tactics do work…
PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’ve often been surprised at how living in America is perceived by the world. I’ve met a lot of people from all over the world, and while some have actually spent enough time here to understand the good and the bad. The rest who have not seem to believe in the shiny veneer that we export in our movies and television.
We are absolute wage slaves here. We are one missed paycheck from homelessness. But sure, blame the slaves for not overthrowing their owners.
PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I dont understand the logic though so please help me here. I have lived in the US and do have a good idea of how shitty things are (or were even back then). Things will not improve by inaction and are objectively getting worse. So yes, you risk a lot by acting but if you dont your life will continue to get worse and you’ll end up homeless anyway? Or worse.
No one is coming to save you. You live in the most powerful country in the world. Nobody is going to come in and liberate you. Your only option is to save yourself.
Nobody is claiming it will be easy, simple, or clean. But what other option is left? This is why the rest of us are baffled. Especially since the US has built up the reputation of having a rebellious spirit. Where is that spirit now?
Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 1 day ago
You are wage slaves who have a higher standard of living than the other wage slaves that are exploited in order to enable the availability of cheap consumer goods which keep the people docile.
This is about the English (and written in 1882) but now also applies to the USA:
This is an expert from Lenin: Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism which I think should be read prior to Settlers if only to disarm the reader from defensiveness. Sakai didn’t invent the idea of the bourgeoisie proletariat, he was building on the ideas of others.
Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 1 day ago
Protests are not the only option, but when asked why Americans are not making meaningful resistance the argument always boils down to: We have protests! Or We can’t protest!
Perhaps the most cursory look at why these actions are successful in different countries is worth a gander. It’s not that France couldn’t crush every protest with their military.
CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The difference is the US 100% will and won’t even apologize for it. Then the
stateoligarch run media will say they were “Terrorists”. Hell, the black lives matters protests in Oregon they spent weeks showing the “devastation” the protesters caused, it was like one square block and they had police dressing like protesters instigating the violence so they could disappear people.PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I think theyre already aware. They just womt do anything of substance to stop it.
Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 1 day ago
If you go your whole life hearing it’s your god given right to have all the privilege and comfort you have (which is still a pittance in comparison to the rich but more than the people exploited to provide cheap goods) it’s hard to risk them.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
are motherfuckers in the us still not aware of trump???
Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 1 day ago
Lol
But a genuine comment because people think I’m a big meanie:
It’s helpful to know that folks aren’t alone and also helpful for orgs who are already doing things to improve the material conditions of their community to get some publicity and maybe some new helping hands.
Maybe then america will realize they have power, and the revolution might not be exactly the same as their last one
umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
it’s also helpful to fight against tyranny though