Then you need to look closer. They’re mostly Republicans but blue.
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victorz@lemmy.world 22 hours agoAs a European, to me it looks like blue is a free puppy, like the picture.
zane@infosec.pub 22 hours ago
Kushan@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Nah, I don’t think the “both sides are the same” argument is anything but propaganda at this point when Obama brought in free healthcare and Trump brought in the Gestapo.
Saying this as a European.
skisnow@lemmy.ca 3 hours ago
Obama brought in free healthcare
lol no. If anything Obamacare is a textbook example of what I meant - he entered office with a Democrat majority in both Houses and the Supreme Court and a huge public mandate to get it done, and still ended up abandoning all his stated plans for a system where big business interests got their entrenched positions solidified by law.
It would be wrong to call Obama a fascist, but he did the opposite of nothing to dismantle the oligarchy that lead to where we are now.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
I don’t think the “both sides are the same” argument is anything but propaganda
That’s because you’re not the one getting $50M in eye-gouging political ads between Jon Fetterman and Memet Oz, only to see them agree on practically every issue once the election is over.
The biggest gulfs in opinion tend to be internal party schisms. Mamdani, Eric Adams, and Andrew Cuomo duking it out in an ugly NYC Mayoral primary while the Republicans just heckel from the cheap seats. Or Eric Cantor losing his job as Majority Whip to an even more virulent Anti-tax Christian white nationalist.
It’s not that Both Sides Are The Same, it’s that each side is a fractal kaleidoscope of particular nuanced views. But the consensus that emerges across the national scene tends to be constrained by what corporate sponsors are willing to fund.
Lobbyists write the legislation. Legislators rationalize why they vote for or against it with their campaign jingoisms.
lena@gregtech.eu 21 hours ago
Both sides are pretty bad, but one is significantly worse than the other
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 18 hours ago
Obama brought in free healthcare
Well that didn’t happen. He brought us a Republican healthcare plan that cemented private insurance into our system and fined people who didn’t have any. The public option got dropped because of captured senators refusing to vote on the bill unless it was removed.
100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 21 hours ago
The Obama administration also put children in wire fence cages.
Trump is the worst because his predecessors were bad.
And we aren’t even talking about foreign policy, we’re talking about what has been going on on American soil.
There’s is a thread that goes from Bill Clinton creating the meme of the welfare queen to DOGE.
Jaysyn@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
There’s is a thread that goes from Bill Clinton creating the meme of the welfare queen to DOGE.
That was famously Ronald Reagan. Not sure why anyone would pay attention to anything else you say after fucking that up that bad.
zane@infosec.pub 21 hours ago
The chair of the Democratic party just tried to secretly meet with a known fascist and white supremacist, not to mention constantly votes against universal healthcare, or maybe I should mention previous votes supporting warrantless searches. but okay, go ahead and tell me about when I had free healthcare, because I sure as fuck don’t recall that happening.
Jaysyn@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
The chair of the Democratic party
victorz@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Right, but we are seeing it from over here, so…
tetris11@feddit.uk 22 hours ago
I still think frew undercooked trout is more accurate
victorz@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Agree to disagree.
parricc@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
American here. The blue option is indeed puppies for everyone. But you’re getting the rest wrong because you live in a country with an actual functioning government. Nothing in the picture said the puppies were free. The puppies are shipped in large Priority Mail flat rate boxes for $34. To receive a puppy, you must first submit Form HUD-9473126-K9B with an attached $200 money order. Processing time is 6-9 weeks upon receipt, and delivery is 2-3 weeks. The government is not responsible for the condition of how the puppy arrives. If your puppy gets damaged, additional forms and fees apply to request a replacement.
But I guess it’s at least not diarrhea forever.
victorz@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
lol, yeah.
I’m only saying what it looks like from afar. I bet it’s garbage up close, still. 😅
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
As a European, can you explain why you also keep voting in the diarrhea candidates?
Waffelmeister@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Because we Europeans are almost as fucked in the head as you Americans.
takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 hours ago
You know when the powerful countries infiltrate 3rd world countries and trigger overthrowing the government?
This is what currently is happening in US and Europe.
Russia is the main one driving it. They infiltrate, bribe politicians, influence public opinion via social media. If they win they start looting the country for themselves, but also using the funding to help sister parties in other countries to do the same.
This is why they all seem to have very similar views, that also “magically” align with what Kremlin views.
This is very cheap campaign for Russia to destroy the Western world, kill EU and divide Europe.
Every politician and influencer involved in this movement should be tried as traitors that they are.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
If that’s what is happening in the US and Europe, what just happened in Columbia?
victorz@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
I don’t, so I can’t explain why other people do it.
If I had to guess?
Fear.
historicaldocuments@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Religion.