Why the fuck would you want a defense of capitalism? Its fucking garbage.
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UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 6 days ago
Lemmy is an anti-capitalist echo chamber and you will never good a good defense of capitalism here.
BrickEater@lemmy.world 6 days ago
UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 6 days ago
Popular opinion here.
Evotech@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Popular
quarkquasar@lemmy.world 6 days ago
I suppose I could defend capitalism. Here we go.
Ahem. It could have taken a shorter period to destroy the environment, I suppose.
Alright, that’s all I’ve got for it.
Dingo_Kidneys@lemmy.today 6 days ago
I think you framed this wrong. Yes, you won’t hear a good defense of capitalism here, but your not looking for capitalism if what you want are free markets. Markets can and have existed without capitalism. If you frame the argument differently, you might find a conversation worth having.
Tiral@lemmy.world 6 days ago
There’s nothing wrong with capitalism. The problem is late stage capitalism which we’re in. Also they didn’t anticipate how the world would change when the idea was constructed. Like “the right to bare arms” when it was written was quite different than it is now.
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 6 days ago
I feel like this is like saying “there’s nothing wrong with skydiving without a parachute, it’s hitting the ground that’s the problem”.
The very nature of how capital is designed to accumulate under capitalism makes avoiding late stage capitalism impossible. The ownership class will always accumulate enough capital to exert more and more control over the government meant to regulate its greed. Eventually creating a cascading effect that destabilizes the markets ability to distribute resources in a way that can support a civil society.
Denjin@feddit.uk 6 days ago
Capitalism, within a strong regulatory framework, a strong government that provides for the poorest and protects the weakest is a perfectly valid system and was how the liberal democracies of the 20th century were able to have such an explosion of quality of life for their citizens and innovation.
It’s only when the balance of power shifts away from states and towards corporations do we see the corrosive effects of unfettered greed on society as a whole. Was capitalist democracy perfect in the 1920s-1980s? No. Did its benefits outweigh its harms for the ordinary person? Most definitely.
Its also a testament to the broad success of capitalism that we’re all able to tap into our screens and have this very conversation now.
wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Sadly, the way we have inherited this shit corporatocracy, there isn’t a good definition left.
BigDiction@lemmy.world 5 days ago
But what free digital services will be complain about next???
sangeteria@lemmy.ml 5 days ago
You’re framing this like it’s a problem. Most of the world is capitalist and we’re constantly inundated with its propaganda. If I wanted to see the so-called compelling arguments for capitalism I can go outside, which I gotta do every day for work and errands. Nothing wrong with seeking likeminded peers in the presence of this physical and psychic onslaught.
UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 5 days ago
Not really. I don’t see good argument for capitalism on the streets either. I’m talking about smart people who also firmly believe capitalism is better for humanity.
sangeteria@lemmy.ml 5 days ago
If you don’t see good arguments for capitalism outside of the so-called echo chamber that is Lemmy, have you maybe considered that there isn’t much of a compelling case for capitalism?
UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 5 days ago
If there was it would be treated vehemently by the people of this community. I’m not going anywhere with this I just tried to find an opinion that isn’t popular. The idea that this place can and will be hostile to certain ideas.
VAK@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I feel capitalism is necessarily how a large country can work but taxing wealth is needed
spacegoat@lemmy.world 6 days ago
“Reality has a well-known liberal bias”