if you are willing to sit a juror pool for like several days straight, where they spends hours questioning each juror of why they can and cannot serve. its really annoying and time consuming, and people have jobs. most of the people in my area can afford to take time off, majority of the juror pool i was in was tech/programmer. its very anxiety inducing if you dont want to be there.
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stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 1 day agoI’ve never understand why people always complain about jury duty in particular. I’ve never been called, but I think it sounds like an interesting experience.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 day ago
bridgeburner@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Wait, so you have to take vacation days for jury duty? Your employer doesn’t have to give you leave? That’s fucked up lol. Every time I think the US couldn’t be more fucked than it already is, I get proven wrong lol.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 hours ago
yes and no, it really depends on the EMPLOYER if they want to pay you for it, they allow you to be on JD, but they dont have to pay you. and i read in other states, thier employer may require the “pitiful jury duty pay” as compensation time off.
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 22 hours ago
You reminded me of an excellent quote: “the USA is not a first world country. It’s 50 third world countries in a trench coat”.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 hours ago
because they choose 12jurors, 6 alternates because they are much easily swayed to go in one decision or another by prosecutoers, defense attorneys. thats why they rarely choose people in the courst system themselves , or scientists some times.
snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 23 hours ago
Yeah do they not legally have to pay you for it in the us or something? That’s messed up
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 hours ago
and some employers require the jury duty pay, if you want your full 8hr shift to be paid. it really isnt fair to force employers to pay the jurors thier full usual hours. its the city and state that should pay thier full wage amount for that day. but they dont, they know they cant get by with paying less than 15$/day.
zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 hours ago
In most (maybe all) states, you do get paid by the state, but it is something hilariously low. In my state it is $20 a day I believe, which is not much above the minimum hourly wage for my area.
architect@thelemmy.club 21 hours ago
They pay you but it’s like enough for lunch.
xylol@leminal.space 1 day ago
Yeah you get to sit in a lobby for 3 hours, then the judge calls you in to tell you to be back in an hour after lunch. The you come back and sit a few more hours until they call you back in to tell you what time to be back the next day
errer@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I served in a jury once on a criminal case, we found the defendant not guilty and got to see him be freed. That felt pretty nice to be a part of that.
teslekova@sh.itjust.works 7 hours ago
Nice one! That’s like one of the optimal outcomes for jury duty.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 day ago
i sat in one last sept, it was very boring and very annoying if you a job. basically the 1st 2 days is roll call like 200+people, and they may or may not take "excuses’ to be excluded from jd. if you are selected you have to sit in a courtroom usually 8am sharp and then sit there for 7+hrs listening to peoples “biases” of why they can or cannot be in the jury(with breaks). they will sus you out if you try the JD nullfication tactic, and they might end up choosing you.
architect@thelemmy.club 21 hours ago
It’s because they don’t value your time.
cobysev@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I was exempt from jury duty while serving in the US military, but at one particular base I was stationed at, they put me on a list of potential jury members for any military trials held in the area.
My boss got selected to sit in on a trial, but I never got called. He was super excited about it. He said it was a fascinating case and he couldn’t wait to spill the details once the trial concluded.
To this day, I’ve never been called on. I kinda hope it happens one day. I’m retired now and have nothing better to do.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 day ago
was he chosen, from what ive gathered they usually reject people that are too excited for jury duty.
NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I wouldn’t mind doing it. I was actually summoned twice in a two year period, but my stupid ADHD ass neglected to show up because I was really bad at time management back then. They have not summoned me since :(.
fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 1 day ago
Also jury nullification exists, which can be fun.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 day ago
they are too smart for that, they will keep you in the jury as long as they want just for doing that, or choose you anyways. you have to come up with creative ways of"biases". thats what some of the people did when i sat on a jury in the stands did. they were overexaggerating thier biases, and creating “Stories”
snoons@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Mostly it’s money related. Some people literally cannot afford to attend jury duty because of how little compensation there is for their time; like in my area, if it takes two weeks you get compensated $4.75 an hour compared to a full time job which is $13.50 below minimum wage ($18.25).
I also think it would be cool and would like to attend, but then I wouldn’t be able to pay rent if it goes on too long.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 day ago
in the west its only 15/day, if you are on the juror pool.