Comment on Two ICE agents in plain clothes punched and tried to handcuff an Australian man at Las Vegas Airport. When they saw they were being filmed, they quickly left.

• baines@lemmy.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  we’re not special

  we’ve treated numerous people in various nations the same way

  not every Russian is pro pootin but plenty in the US cheer at deaths over the war with Ukraine and America’s current behavior affects many more directly than that conflict

  best you get used to being treated like the heel, it’s only going to get worse

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  • mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I promise you and you can mark my words but there is a reckoning coming.

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      You’ve been saying that for years. I’ve yet to see any pushback, now the rallies are a good start but they have to go on day after day after day after day after day until the situation improves, not one weekend every six months.

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    • bunnybunny@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      We’ll see in November when the Republicans will win the midterms because people vote R and the other part is too lazy to get off of their asses to vote. Is that the reckoning you’re talking about?

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      • mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Ya. Ya, that’s one.

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• AstralPath@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Then accept the fuck yous you’re getting, get used to the animosity, and vote to fix your government. Your country’s horseshit spills over everywhere and we’re tired of having to step through the shit left behind by your administration.

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  • mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    No. I will not. Fuck you instead.

    What country are you from?

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• db_null@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Do more to stop it.

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  • mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    We actually are. If what you’re expecting is bloody revolution that’s not going to happen. And I understand from the outside looking in it seems like we’re doing nothing but that isn’t the case.

    As an American once again, I condemn the actions of our current sitting president. Ice is a modern-day Gestapo.

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    • db_null@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Thanks for your condemnation. Thoughts and prayers it’ll all work out

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      • mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I’m detecting a bit of sarcasm…

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• HugeNerd@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Wah wah wah citizen of country that has decades of war crimes under its belt gets upset when called out on 0.1% of it

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  • mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    And your country? No war crimes then? Squeaky clean?

    Y’all never mention what country you’re from.

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    • HugeNerd@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Wah wah wah whataboutism.

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      • mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Nothing. What about anything? Your country is a shithole just like mine.

        It’s full of deep-rooted nationalism, political cults that dictate policy, and extreme right-wing politicians pulling the same crap we have here in America.

        You have extreme homelessness in your capital, predatory lending practices, and billionaires in the top 1% who don’t pay their fair share of taxes.

        Your universal healthcare is pretty good, though. I can’t say anything bad about that.

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    • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Irrelevant.

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      • mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        No, I’m not saying you can’t criticize America because you’re from another country. I’m saying you don’t get to sit on a moral pedestal while pretending your country is somehow above the same behavior.

        Your country has participated in military interventions, surveillance, controversial policing, treatment of Indigenous peoples, immigration detention, and plenty of other policies that deserve criticism. Yet somehow America is uniquely evil while your country gets a pass. That’s selective outrage.

        So yes, I’m going to defend my country when someone from another country spends their time lecturing Americans as if theirs is fundamentally different. It isn’t. The differences are often a matter of degree, not kind.

        You can criticize America all you want. I have no issue with that. What I take issue with is the double standard. If you’re going to condemn the United States for something, then apply that exact same standard to your own country. If you don’t, then this isn’t about principles, it’s about your bias against America.

        Don’t expect Americans to quietly nod along while foreigners endlessly dump on their country. We’re allowed to push back, we’re allowed to defend it, and we’re allowed to point out when the criticism comes from someone whose own country engages in many of the same practices they’re denouncing. If you don’t like being called out for that, the solution isn’t to tell Americans to stop defending their country, it’s to apply your standards consistently.

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• bluesheep@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Lowest quality rage bait I have seen yet

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  • mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Good for you.

    So the guy condemning America and saying fuck you to it is high quality rage bait?

    Or you don’t like the fact that I’m simply defending the country that I love and live in?

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    • bluesheep@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Nah he’s just objectively correct, fuck America.

      Also as an American I fully condemn this administration, ice and everything the orange man has done from the bottom of my soul!

      Or you don’t like the fact that I’m simply defending the country that I love and live in?

      You’re getting better at the ragebait tho

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      • mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        And like I said before fuck You and your country right back.

        This is what I’m doing in my shit hole right now.

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• SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  You as a people certainly do like this. ICE has strong supporters. This is why the world thinks your a bunch of cunts.

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  • mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    This is a false dichotomy.

    You can support enforcing immigration law while still opposing how ICE conducts some of its operations. In fact, that’s the position many people take.

    The strongest opposition to ICE comes from the political left, particularly progressive Democrats and immigration advocacy groups. Their criticism is generally directed at tactics like large-scale raids, detention practices, due process concerns, and the scope of the agency’s authority. Some want major reforms; a smaller number want the agency abolished altogether.

    Meanwhile, Republicans and many conservatives overwhelmingly support ICE, arguing that it’s carrying out laws passed by Congress and is an essential part of immigration enforcement.

    So pretending there’s some universal consensus either for or against ICE is just inaccurate. The agency is one of the most politically polarized institutions in the country. Whether someone supports it, wants it reformed, or wants it abolished depends largely on their political views—not on some objective, settled fact.

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• lightnsfw@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Hating something isn’t the same thing as doing something about it.

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• Ghostwurm@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

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  • mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I won’t quote your comment because you deleted it, and it wasn’t that bad.

    But I’ll respond to it anyway.

    The news you get from whatever state media you’re watching, or whatever you happen to see here on Lemmy or Reddit, is not representative of the country as a whole.

    There is significant opposition to what is happening in my country right now. We do not like ICE as a whole. We do not consider it legitimate law enforcement. To many of us, it has become a modern-day Gestapo.

    They are widely disliked across many communities in America. Many people view those employed by ICE as the bottom-of-the-barrel refuse of our society.

    If you’d like to understand what is actually happening in our country, I suggest doing something more than toilet-bowl research.

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