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Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• Mikina@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The only exposure I have with how Amish work is from Newport’s Digital Mininalism book, and it sounded pretty reasonable. (Don’t know how correct it is, though)

  The way he put it, they don’t outright ban and refuse all technology. Every time a new tech comes out, they have a few people give it a try and then decide as a community if/how to best use it without sacrificing their core values.

  For example - a telephone? We don’t want that, because then it would break the sense of community if you could just call anyone, without having to call on them/meet then for dinner, etc. But, we’ll have one phone in a village in casr we need to call for outside help in an emergency.

  Assuming that’s true, I would suspect that especially in regards to medicine, they would be pretty open. But yeah, I guess it absolutely depends on the community, and how cultish/reasonable are the people making these calls.

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  • baggachipz@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What they allow is entirely the whim of the local Bishop. Some are super conservative. Others not so. I’ve seen Amish people on e-bikes, while others don’t allow rubber tires on their buggies. Then whenever a new Bishop rotates in, a new toss-up in the rules. One common theme is that they hoard shit tons of money.

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    • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yep, In my experience a community of Amish people an hour away from each other can be radically different. The more laid back communities tend to be filled with hardworking and nice people. While the conservative ones can be pretty dystopian.

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    • Mikina@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, I kind of assumed that would probably be the case, and while this kind of reasonable approach to technology, that was highlighted in the book, sounds pretty nice in theory, it does put a lot of power into few hands, which historically (and unfortunately) never works very well.

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  • somehacker@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They aren’t open to medicine. Also most adult men have cell phones and hide them.

    Every Individual in their community I’ve met has been super nice, but it’s still a cult and they still do fucked up shit.

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    • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      To be fair, every christianity is a cult. And most religions are divided into various cults. Cults are the local unit of any religion. In ancient Greece, each city would have a cult dedicated to its patron god, and maybe a few cults to other deities if it’s a big city. These days, we’ve got the methodists, pentecostals, orthodox, baptists, lutherans… People always have and always will organise their religion into cults. Larger groups just have weaker cohesion than smaller groups, so people want to be in a smaller group of some kind.

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      • cattywampas@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Regardless of its etymology, that is not how the word “cult” is used today.

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      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Does seem remotely related to what was said.

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    • ztwhixsemhwldvka@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Some individuals being hypocrites doesn’t invalidate their way of life. I admittedly don’t know much about them but I remember watching a documentary where the teen members of the community explore the outside world.

      One girl comments on the public school education system that the students were focused on passing exams and not on actually learning anything. Always stuck with me.

      I would be hesitant to call them a cult, since there seems to be a diverse range of communities and practices. Maga is a cult.

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• A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I sold electrical equipment to some Amish once, which felt real weird.

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  • ByteJunk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    In what way? I assume they must have been familiar with how it worked, or was it like performing a magic trick?

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    • cattywampas@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      My brother in Jehovah they’re Amish, not an uncontacted tribe

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      • ByteJunk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Oh well never met one, and from the little I know they can vary somewhere between late middle age pilgrims up to the run of the mill religious person with a weird hat.

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    • A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They had a handyman who drove them and helped them with some woodworking i think, if I recall they were setting something up in their lumber mill

      They’ve got some more leeway than youd think

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  • ddplf@szmer.info ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    *Ummm, do your village elders know you’re here? *

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• ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So is an AC unit.

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  • edwardbear@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    nah. not in the current version of ac. look how was this solved in the past. capitalism made everything worse. the need for ac creates more need of ac.

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