With a denser atmosphere, wouldn’t that mean that you could get more lift from a traditional aerofoil than on earth? And if so, wouldn’t that technically make it easier to start from a high enough altitude that at least some of the gravity is mitigated?
Comment on Lmao
gami@piefed.social 5 hours ago(Not a rocket scientist or mathematician, but I spent 100s of hours playing KSP RP-1)
Just doing some estimates using data from the wikipedia page:
The dV (delta-V) needed to get into low Earth orbit is around 9.4km/s.
The dV for K2-18b might be around 19km/s, more than double that of Earth’s.
It’s practically impossible I think, you would need such a massive launch vehicle. For double the dV, you would need exponentially more fuel assuming current rocketry tech (fuel+oxidizer tanks and engines). There wouldn’t be any single-stage or two-stage rockets that could do this. With a 3 or 4 stage rocket maybe? But you would be sending nearly 100% fuel off the launchpad with virtually zero payload.
I tried to factor in:
spoiler
- Atmospheric drag - K2-18b’s atmosphere is quite dense with a huge radius:
The density of K2-18b is about 2.67+0.52/−0.47 g/cm3—intermediate between that of Earth and Neptune—implying that the planet has a hydrogen-rich envelope. […] Atmosphere makes up at most 6.2% of the planet’s mass
Since the atmosphere is so thick and takes up a lot of mass, I’ve picked 500km as the low orbit altitude (comparing to Earth’s ~100km Karman line, it makes you appreciate how thin our atmosphere is ).
Rotational assist - I’m assuming it’s tidally locked since it orbits so closely to its star (33 day years), and so you wouldn’t get the assist from rotation like you do on Earth:
The planet is most likely tidally locked to the star, although considering its orbital eccentricity, a spin-orbit resonance like Mercury is also possible.
PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 2 hours ago
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 1 hour ago
That’s what i was thinking - the dense atmosphere might even allow for platforms which are permanently suspended in the air like an inverse submarine, offsetting a large amount of needed fuel for a space launch
matsdis@piefed.social 3 hours ago
Check out the “tyranny of the rocket equation”.
Or ask Randall Munroe How many model rocket engines would it take to launch a real rocket into space?
Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 hour ago
tidally locked
Wouldn’t that be a non starter for life? One side would be perpetually baked and the other would be frozen.
makyo@lemmy.world 22 minutes ago
I guess there could be a planetary Goldilocks Zone in the dusk area
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 4 hours ago
Build a large enough magnetic rail launcher and you could save shit tons of fuel. Get a ship doing 2000 mph before it leaves the ground and needs its rockets and you’ll have a pretty good head start.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 hours ago
Could even take a scramjet to the upper layers of the atmosphere before kicking in the chemical propulsion
jballs@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
Kerbal Space Program is such an amazing game that secretly teaches you physics.
Image