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lumen@feddit.nl 7 hours agoWhat right would be violated here exactly?
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
*Unless Facebook does the unreasonable searching and we pay them for any data they collect
Funny how people think they have a “right” of privacy in public… there is absolutely no expectation of privacy in public. Besides, there are cameras EVERYWHERE always filming.
This only makes sense if you imagine rights are granted to you by your wise and benevolent king when he’s in a good mood and no one else.
And you’re the second person in this thread who can think. Thank you.
I’ve been threatened with violence twice already in this very thread, in the hypothetical scenario that I would film them. I don’t think Lemmy is for me. Too violent.
Bye, then
I don’t think Lemmy is for me. Too violent.
We will not miss you
Quite many when used anywhere except in public space.
baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 7 hours ago
facebook knowing my personal information against my will goes against my right to privacy. there are also the ethics of recording people in secret instead of making it very obvious. no, a blinking red dot does not count, and it can also be covered with a special purpose-made made black sticker.
now that i think about it, I’m just not comfortable being filmed by strangers at all, in any way, regardless of where the images end up.
i don’t think people should get used to it either. it’s incredibly creepy, even if no law is broken where you live.
and yes, i do understand that in many places just being in public reduces your right to privacy so that you’re legally allowed to be photographed as long as you’re not the focus. i don’t care. still creepy.
Soulphite@reddthat.com 6 hours ago
I’m sure you’re aware while you traverse in public you are on camera pretty much the entire time, right? There are cameras everywhere always filming, some you know about and can clearly see, some you will never know about and never see. Your face is in a database whether you consent or not.
The part about Facebook knowing your information without your consent? Do you have an account with them?
baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 6 hours ago
i know, doesn’t change my stance. i don’t have a facebook account, at most a shadow profile because others may talk about me
matlag@sh.itjust.works 3 hours ago
The proliferation of cameras in public is not a good thing. I am yet to see data showing it reduces criminality (supposed to be the intent), meanwhile it’s a massive surveillance system.
And the fact that a given situation is bad is hardly a good argument to promote making it worse.
Meta collects data on everyone: from contact info in cellphone through their apps, uploaded photos, videos etc. If you don’t have an account nor consent to anything, they will just not show the data, but will still build the profile combining different sources and feed it to its algorithms.
It has been a well known practice for many years.
LordCrom@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Facebook has a profile on everyone. Accounts or not. They are just like every other data broker. All they want is access to more data and more data.
All that medical data is the holy grail… Anyone who thinks medical data will remain private is naive. All it takes is very deep pockets and lawmakers who want contributions to change the laws.
lumen@feddit.nl 7 hours ago
I agree it can be creepy. But where I live, and in the US, as well as many other countries, you have no expectation of privacy in public. That’s why it’s called public. It might feel right to want to impose some restrictions on public photography, but since there’s absolutely no way to fairly draw a line, it’s better to not impose limits at all.
baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 7 hours ago
there’s absolutely a way to draw a line. no smart glasses.
lumen@feddit.nl 6 hours ago
No smart glasses. Alright, then I would wear hidden camera’s in the buttons of my shirt. The point I’m trying to make here, is that this is not a technological debate. It’s about freedoms: having your freedoms means having to respect others’ as well.