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ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 1 month ago
This is what pushes me to piracy. I had no intention of pirating Crimson Desert, because I think it looks good and I’d support the devs by buying it. But I’m not interested in buying a license to play a handicapped version of the game. I’ll just play something else until they remove Denuvo.
Also, fuck the shills across gaming sites celebrating the addition of Denuvo because “pirates are just mad they can’t get it free on day one”. People who pay get fucked over more than pirates do. We pay more for a worse version of the game than pirates eventually get for free.
Denuvo is a deal breaker.
So you blame the developer and not the pirates for this?
This is the equivalent of trumpers crying about “illegal” immigrants and not the people that hire them.
Go ahead and boycott the game over this. I’m sure the amount of money they’re making from all the would-be pirates now having to actually pay for a change will more than make up for it.
Go back to the Steam forums where you belong, bootlicker.
Person disagrees with your point:
You: “bOoTliCkEr!”
Except when people provide you with evidence and reasoning you just go “lmao” and leave it at that too.
Show me the data that proves piracy actually causes a tangible loss for the developer for DRM to actually be needed.
The only way to do this accurately would require the same game to release twice on two planet Earths. It gets harder when pirates are not the types to offer up their purchase data honestly and willingly, for somewhat expectable reasons.
BUT, the closest we got is an old version of FIFA (we’ll assume it was FIFA. This is an old article, and unfortunately I’m only recalling details from memory until I can locate a very old bookmark) Those games sell each year, generally just to update the roster. You’ll see many college dorms where people just stack up each year’s edition they bought because that trend doesn’t change. In the year that the publisher added Denuvo encryption, the PC sales jumped significantly. The only reasonable explanation most analysts could come to is that many PC gamers found they couldn’t pirate the game, and bought it.
It’s not perfect data, not least because I don’t have a link right now. The other murky point is that the people who need to be convinced are not gamers, but publishers. Whatever arguments we make in forums, Denuvo makes its own arguments to them behind closed doors. So far, their arguments have been convincing, enough for publishers to burn money on licenses, and it may be because they have some very valuable, and non-public, figures that make the case. The games industry is not always obligated to release full numbers to its fanbase.
I’m not trying to suggest anyone should shut up and accept Denuvo, I think a lot of the frustration is valid. But I do think it can be more nuanced than you reali3z
Lmao…. Show you the data that would otherwise be impossible to show you?
There is no tangible way to prove who would or wouldn’t buy a thing if the parameters were different other than polling them.
And how exactly do you think polling dishonest people will turn out?
Why is pirating inherently dishonest in your opinion?
In a world were plenty of games without denuvo are doing just fine? Yeah I blame the publisher/dev.
LMAO….
What an argument to credible sources disproving you wrong. Trump supporter logic.
My first Final Fantasy game was a rom a friend all but insisted I play. Before that the idea of random encounters and turned-based combat were a huge turnoff to me, and I had no interest in buying it. Since then I’ve purchased a copy of nearly every game in the series, some more than once for different platforms. Same story for the Trails games and some others.
That’s a lot of money those companies would never had received if it weren’t for just a little bit of piracy to make a fan out of someone.
Typically the people I know who pirate because they want to play without paying are doing so because they don’t have the money. As mentioned countless times before, they would not have bought the game otherwise because they probably couldn’t afford it in the first place. Denuvo may (or may not, I don’t actually know) block pirates, but it doesn’t ensure the publisher is making any more money. It does however ensure that regular paying folks get a worse product. I think people have the right to be upset about that. They could just use a different DRM.
Denuvo adds an obscene amount of checks to the executable, which manifests as an increased CPU load (compare Assassin’s Creed Origins with and without it) and poorer performance. It also restricts the game’s availability to legitimate paying customers if there’s any issue with the “is this a new installation” detector.
Would be pirates are never going to pay for it
No loss.
You… either completely missed or completely ignored the point. The point being that, in order to attack the pirates who wouldn’t have bought the game anyway, regular paying users are getting screwed over by a significant performance hit.
The developers have a lot of choices in their approach to piracy and they chose a company that makes performance killing restraints that runs concurrent to the software causing poor performance. The game could be fun and run well but it is saddled by the poor business choices of the developer.
Yes I do because they actively chose to make their game shittier for people who purchase legitimate copies. You think pirates are going to pay for this shit? They were never going to pay to begin with, what makes you think they’re going to pay for it now?
They’re not. And now they do get to play it for free either.
Win-win.
all the would-be pirates now having to actually pay
You think pirates are going to pay for this shit? They were never going to pay to begin with, what makes you think they’re going to pay for it now?
They’re not.
Way to contradict yourself in literally the next comment. Clearly you are a shill and not a serious person.
Who exactly “wins” anything here?
The dev pay for denuvo licenses an doesn’t gain enough sales to make up for it - lose.
The pirate waits longer to play the game - lose.
The paying customer gets an inferior product - lose.
The pirates didn’t add a piece of software that doesn’t help sales, slows down computers, and eventually breaks the game. They remove it.
Noja@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
Buy the game, play for 10 minutes, leave a negative review citing the performance issues and then refund it.
ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 1 month ago
That’s a good idea! Either that, or I buy a key from a shady website so the devs don’t get any money
Rhoeri@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Ahh. So you admit that it hurts the devs. Imagine that.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
If you dot that you get penalized in BDO if you also play that.
They literally threaten your mmo account to make sure you don’t refund.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
More of a reason to do it then. That’s scummy. I guess I’ll be avoiding them like the plague.
QuantumTickle@futurology.today 1 month ago
Oh! Good idea!