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• MTZ@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I absolutely and unequivocally side with Palestine (half of my family is Palestinian) and Ukraine.

  It’s jokes. It’s a shitposting group. I shitposted.

  I do not stand with Russia or Israel. Both of those regimes go against everything that means basically anything to me. They are evil, along with the USA, which I live in unfortunately.

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  • Imhotep@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Everyday I see tankie posts and it’s often the same scam: “america bad” (okay) “hence russia and china good”

    Your post could be interpreted as such, especially on Lemmy

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  • Photonic@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I get you. But I still downvoted your post. Why? Not because I disagree with anything you said in this comment, but because you can’t be certain anymore. Shitpost communities are also being affected by people with actual political motives, many memes aren’t memes and tankies rule this space of the internet, just like I left 9GAG years ago because of the neo nazi takeover.

    I’m a firm believer of the horseshoe theory (which of course isn’t a blanket theory for everything), but nazis call me communist scum and tankies call me (apparently, as it just happened under another comment under your post) a Zionist. Of course I am neither.

    They’re all the same people to me. They’re people with a twisted, broken and oversimplified worldview who won’t be bothered with annoying things like facts and logic. Maybe tankies have a slightly better heart, but the ones supporting the DPRK are just as deranged as the MAGAts.

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  • Yliaster@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m glad I’m finally seeing someone else that’s actually both pro-palestine AND pro-ukraine for once. It’s usually mutually exclusive — I don’t understand why. Literally every single pro-palestine person I’ve seen otherwise has been pretty vocally anti-Ukraine.

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    • Photonic@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s mostly the internet though. If I talk to my friends and almost all my colleagues, they overwhelmingly and strongly hold these two views.

      For instance, at the lunch table at work (about 8 ppl there, somewhere in Europe, during a discussion about Trump) I uttered the phrase “I think we need to start viewing the US as an enemy state under the current administration”, fully expecting to set off a fierce discussion. Instead everyone was like, “yup, sounds about right” and carried on with their lunch.

      Point is: talk to people outside the internet and they may surprise you.

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      • Yliaster@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’m glad it’s better over there, because in my [limited] friend group and family, nobody is pro-ukraine.

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• thebestaquaman@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I don’t interpret this in either of the ways you suggest. I interpret the image as a whole as ironic:

  OP is paraphrasing people that claim “Russia bombing people is bad, but the US bombing people is good, and by the way Israel is above all criticism and you’re an antisemite for suggesting otherwise”, and pointing out the hypocrisy in that claim. I think OP is against wars of aggression in general, and is pointing out that the US and Israel are behaving the same way as Russia when they go bombing people “preemptively”, and that being the aggressor in a war is always bad, regardless of who you are.

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  • MTZ@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    THANK YOU. That is exactly what was meant by this. It’s a critique towards Israel and war itself, and in no way was meant to show support for any of these countries.

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    • yakko@feddit.uk ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s super hard to joke on Lemmy lately, everyone is srs af

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  • FiniteBanjo@feddit.online ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That’s not the US Flag.

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    • thebestaquaman@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You correct, it’s the NATO flag, so you can replace “US” with “NATO” in my comment and my original point still stands. I wrote “US”, because they’re the only NATO member currently bombing someone in a war of aggression.

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• FelixCress@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Fuck Netanyahu and Fuck Russia.

  This.

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• skisnow@lemmy.ca ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Either they’re all ironic [] or none of them are ironic

  Textbook false dichotomy, and not how I read it at all. Setup->Punchline is the most basic joke format in existence.

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• Peehole@piefed.social ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Fuck Israel as a whole too why just Netanyahu?

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  • FiniteBanjo@feddit.online ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Like 78% of Israel.

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    • Peehole@piefed.social ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Israel is a colonialist entity committing crimes against humanity such as but not limited to genocide and apartheid fuck 100% the entire concept of it.

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      • FiniteBanjo@feddit.online ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        What choice is there?

        The large majority of them were born and raised there, and a lot of them truly want peace and prosperity. If their democracy were functioning well then cruel people like Netanyahu would not be able to cling to power for so long, and especially not after his trials.

        To ask every Israeli to leave or die is not different than the gaza genocide.

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      • Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Israel is a colonist entity just like the USA, Canada, Australia, new Zealand, Argentina, Brazil, etc etc. When the original Israelites arrived there thousands of years ago they colonised it and drove out whoever was there first, they were then driven out by the Arabs who were driven out by the Ottomans who were driven out by the British, who ceded it to the Arabs and Jews who will likely both get invaded by the Turks to “restore peace”. It’s a cursed piece of land. But, you can’t remove it, because the Israelis have hidden a bunch of nukes all around the world as an insurance policy.

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• redsand@infosec.pub ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  False dichotomy. Back to banjo practice 🤡

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• AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I just interpreted as a meme criticising how people automatically side with the “good side” whether it is actually good or just a puppet state that has to win. Ukraine is actually the good side and accidentally the west supports it. Palestine is actually the good side but they got unlucky and the west supports israel. If anyone is sane, ukraine and palestine both deserve peace because an agressor attacked them and theyre just defending themselves but in the west the narrative kind of conflicts itself cause they support ukraine and israel.

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  • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This is somehow controversial, but I firmly believe that all of them, Ukraine, Palestine, Israel, Iran, everyone else, deserves an independent nation free of totalitarian dictators or religious fundamentalists.

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    • AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I agree that ethnostates are required today because its the only way to protect a group of people. Ideally ethnostates wouldnt have to be a thing. With how things are now, i think israel should also exist, its absolutely stupid to propose it be removed cause then you have the problem of a bunch of jews having nowhere to go again, and also a lot of the people there have never known a different home than israel. On the other hand they should be sanctioned and stopped from commiting constant warcrimes and palestinians live their lives in their rightful territory. The russia situation is a bit different. Theres no real reason for its existance. Its a bunch of russians opressing minorities, they should have their own country if were following the ethnostate idea. At very least european and asian russia should be seperate countries. But yeah thats never happening.

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      • AlDente@sh.itjust.works ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Fun fact: In the 1950s, Zionists secretly performed terrorist attacks on Jewish synagogues and communities around the middle east. This was done in an effort to make them feel unsafe in Arab countries to promote migrations to the newly-formed country of Israel. Before this, Jewish people largely lived at peace alongside Muslims, as they were traditionally considered “People of the Book” due to their shared Abrahamic-religious background.

        middleeasteye.net/…/iraq-jews-attacks-zionist-rol…

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      • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        i think israel should also exist, its absolutely stupid to propose it be removed cause then you have the problem of a bunch of jews having nowhere to go again

        And, more importantly, you lose the moral ground on which you get to protest the Palestinian genocide when you’re advocating for Israeli genocide.

        (“you” here is “a person”, not you, @AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip)

        On the other hand they should be sanctioned and stopped from commiting constant warcrimes and palestinians live their lives in their rightful territory

        Absolutely agree. UN forces should secure the borders (as they were originally defined) and consider any settler a terrorist.

        The russia situation is a bit different. Theres no real reason for its existance. Its a bunch of russians opressing minorities, they should have their own country if were following the ethnostate idea. At very least european and asian russia should be seperate countries. But yeah thats never happening.

        Yup. I kind of hope that their economy crashing will allow the eastern provinces to reach independence, but at the same time I realise that it would be suicide for them. Like, even if they somehow managed to get the money and food to supply and govern themselves, there’s no reality in which China doesn’t immediately swoop in and grab half of Siberia.

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• flandish@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  fuck all govs. fuck israel separately because it’s not a real country.

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  • FiniteBanjo@feddit.online ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Opposing all governments topples none of them.

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• kilgore_trout@feddit.it ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  You are crazy.

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