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ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 day agoIt’s a little ableist to suggest that his being wheelchair-bound would necessarily prevent him from being a pedophile.
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Oh FFS, cut it out already with the “ablist!!” screeching
The guy literally can only move his eyes, he literally can barely do anything without a support staff. He can breathe on his own, he can think on his own, that’s about it
He cannot be a pedophile is not being ablisi, it’s being realistic.
He was there for a scientific conference that was organized there.
He absolutely could have been a pedophile, it just would have been impossible to act on the urges without enablers.
As amusing as this slap fight is to watch, there’s an important point I think needs to be made.
The use of the word “pedophile” has multiple interpretations. (Yes I’m going to be that guy but follow me for a minute. I promise this is going somewhere.) For sake of argument, let’s look at the two most common uses: “is sexually attracted to children” and “fucks children”. I’m using fucks because that’s what that interpretation calls for. Consent is irrelevant, whether you think a child can give it or not. In the latter case we are discussing the physical act.
In the case of sexual attraction, I would imagine there are far more people in that crowd than most people realize. Don’t give me the studies and stats. I already have enough reasons to want to kill myself in 2026. I don’t want to know. Just acknowledge there is a number, we don’t have to like it. However, that’s not actionable by itself. It’s awful but it’s not relevant to anything. In the case of “Stephen hawking can be a pedophile without the ability to move his hips” this is correct. It is also entirely irrelevant because you know goddamn well what we are actually talking about.
Which brings me to the second interpretation, fucks children. In this use, the pedophile does a thing to a child. Not just fantasizes about it but actually does the thing. It’s cut and dry. THIS is what we are pissed about. When you see public outcry about pedophile stuff, it’s not about the pedantic argument of “well technically that’s not pedophilia.” Language is contextual. You know goddamn well that while most of us aren’t exactly thrilled about someone feeling arousal toward children, the thought itself is irrelevant. The action is.
A thought doesn’t harm children. It’s creeps us out and can serve as a warning sign of “you know, let’s not have Elon babysit. He’s either going to fuck it or eat it.”
What my post asked was what Stephen Hawking was accused of doing in the Epstein files. He’s not able to move his hips or legs of really any of his body in any weaponized capacity so I’m really wondering what the fuck his presence in the files is supposed to imply.
So please ignore the charged label and pay attention to the actual question:
What are people saying Stephen Hawking did on Epstein island?
No, there is one definition of pedophile, the second thing you described is called a child rapist. Naturally, the second is also usually the first, but the reverse is not so reliably true. Y’know, that classic square : rhombus :: child rapist : pedophile analogy. Pretty sure it used to be in the SATs.
I’m not saying he did anything anywhere or that he even was a pedophile, I really don’t care either way. It’s hard to prove and nearly impossible to disprove, since we still don’t know how to read people’s minds, especially dead people. The only horse I’m backing in this race is objective truth. Someone said he couldn’t he a pedophile, which is just so obviously false 🤷♂️.
Lol, way to demonstrate your ignorance.
He cheated on his wife with his nurse, that’s why they separated.
I’m going to regret this but I just have to see where your synaptic misfire is going to land. What are you implying happened?
Are you suggesting someone serviced Stephen Hawking using 9 year old a fleshlight? What exactly would “supporting a paralyzed pedophile” entail?
Seriously, this is dumb.
I’m not implying anything, I’m saying that if he wanted, he could have done a lot of things by meeting people who would make it happen for him.
You’re the only one interested in the logistics (might be something to reflect on…jkjk haha), all we’re saying is that being a quadriplegic has no bearing on what makes you horny.
Are you implying he fucked?
ALS does not interfere with the ability to have erections or orgasms.
I need you to understand something important. An erection and orgasm is absolutely not the same thing as raping a goddamn child.
Grow up. Take your heroes off their pedestal. Move on with your life.
Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Dude was fully paralyzed. Come one. Are you really that desperate to attack someone?
BanMe@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Then how did he have an affair?
Is power itself not enough to coerce someone, you’re saying it has to be physical coercion? That would undo a lot of what we know about sexual assault.
I’m certainly not saying he did it, but “he’s paralyzed” is not a good enough defense.
Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Its not a defense its a line of inquiry. Why do you think people asking what he’s accused of are defending him? That doesn’t make sense.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Why are you suggesting that paralyzed people are somehow incapable?
Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Grow the fuck up.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Stephen Hawking reportedly loved strippers. His being paralyzed doesn’t/didn’t preclude sexual interests, nor untoward sexual pursuits, particularly given his status and presence in the fucking Epstein files.