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daannii@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

So I don’t know Littman and Bailey are controversial. Not unethical. (Fyi Lisa Littman is herself a trans woman).

They do research on a specific sub group of trans women.

Bailey has done lots of other research on sexuality in the homosexual and bisexual area as well.

Bailey and Littmans findings make the trans community angry because the research supports that for some trans females, (not all but some) they transition due to a sexual kink. That they can only be sexually excited by being a woman.

He never said it’s true for all female trans people.

But his evidence is real.

And it’s not really surprising because there are people who cut off body parts because of sexual kinks. There are people out there who get fixated on things and are obsessed. Sexual fixation is an incredibly strong motivator.

Many in the trans community don’t like this research because it paints a picture that they are all just a bunch of perverts. Which is something that they already have to fight against. So many see it as smearing trans people or encouraging stereotypes.

And. Of course conservatives will absolutely use these types of studies to support their opinions on trans people. Weaponize it against them.

But I want to point out some things.

  1. Unpleasant truths don’t make them false.
  2. The concern of these types of studies being used as weapons is valid. But. Conservatives will use anything to validate their opinions. Regardless if it does or doesn’t. (Scientist still have a responsibility to report their research in a way to deter it being used to harm groups).

Baily says in every single one of the papers he is in, that the most effective way to treat gender dysphoria is to help the person transition to their preferred gender. He says this many times. He says it publicly. He advocates for it.

His intention is not to harm trans people but to understand them. Does he go about it in the most sensitive way. No. But intention does count.

Now bailey was also known for doing research on bisexual men. His controversial study found that self reported bisexual men actually showed a preference for men and weren’t pure bisexual. His conclusion was that bisexuality in men was likely just homosexuality. This was met with a lot of backlash. He met with people, heard concerns. And re evaluated his study methods and has since done additional studies and showed his original was flawed. (Mostly caused by the fact that men that are bisexual but prefer women more, are more likely to be closeted bisexuals).

Now I have personally met the guy. He taught statistics. I also attended a seminar on his work.

I never took his sexually courses. But I had heard of his work before attending the uni he was at.

I’ve actually read the papers.

I think most people who don’t like him, have not. Or they are mis understanding statements.

He never makes negative statements about trans. And the last paper I read, was by one of his grad students who was herself, a trans woman.

Transvestite culture has been around for a very long time. Trying to pretend it’s not real because you don’t like the narrative is not the way forward.

Do I like bailys personality? Not particularly. I think he’s one of those people who like to challenge things , sometimes just to see other people squirm. A bit pretentious . But I can’t deny his research has merit to it. That’s why it keeps getting published. The methodology and statistics are sound science.

As a last point. I don’t care if the reason that people want to transition is because it’s a sex thing. To me that does not change anything. Adults have a right to full autonomy over their own body. They are the only ones who get to decide such things like their gender.

I also couldn’t care less what weird kinks other people have. As long as it’s consenting adults, it’s none of my business.

That says, I realize though that my easy acceptance of people transitioning for whatever reason won’t be shared by the general public.

But I still say though that the people who will have a problem with it, currently have a problem with transitioning, even if the narrative is “I was born in the wrong body”.

Even that won’t satisfy them as a good enough reason.

So no point in pandering to them.

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