I’m not seeing that, pedophilia is a condition and the user was responding in earnest to a comment asking “why?”. I personally would not conflate this with defending child molesters
SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Is it because of that time you were defending pedophilia and regurgitating MAP talking points?
Hadriscus@jlai.lu 2 days ago
Apytele@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
I mean it’s a shitty take and really doesn’t evidence good understanding of the topic (I used to work forensic psych and have met a LOT of pedophiles) but as far as shitty internet takes go it’s meh at most and wild to me that you went to the effort to dig that out from two weeks ago for this discussion.
shalafi@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I’ll ask you the same, do you believe people choose their attractions? Be very careful in your answer. If you say yes, then LGBT is a choice.
Apytele@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Most offenders I’ve interacted with have no specific attraction to children at all. They want to rape someone and children just happen to make ideal victims by being smaller and weaker and depending on age and upbringing may not even realize a crime had occurred or be able to advocate for themselves. Most of the offenders would have / often had also raped the elderly or disabled if given the chance. They would even attempt to prey on the smaller or weaker staff members if given the opportunity.
There were a few edge cases of profoundly psychotic / ID patients who genuinely just didn’t know any better but again it was rarely a specific attraction and more of an overall disinhibition, they would generally also have trespassing, petty theft, and property damage charges. Violent and sexual intrusive thoughts can be a part of some OCD presentations but they basically never offend and the thoughts usually go away when the underlying anxiety is treated with medication and behavioral therapy. I’m not saying attraction to children doesn’t exist, but when we’re taking about the actual issue of child sexual assault it’s just an unproductive line of discussion that relates very little to the actual core issues.
Now that said, we do have a huge issue as a society with allowing the high of righteous fury to interfere with victims actually receiving justice. Those accused have just as much of a right to due process as anyone accused of any other crime. Interfering with that right either creates massive overreach by the legal system or in individual cases damages evidence that would be used to fairly prosecute an offender. It also creates a social environment where people protect their offending loved ones out of fear for them, when they should feel secure in the knowledge that while they can’t stop living them, they can and will be safely separated from the rest of society for the rest of their natural life.
K1nsey6@lemmy.world 2 days ago
And you are questioning multiple downvotes while making comments like this. Maybe its because you have shit takes
otp@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
I think the point is that she was a child rapist, not necessarily a pedophile.
Some child rapists rape children because of the power imbalance etc., not necessarily put of physical, sexual, or romantic attraction.
Hadriscus@jlai.lu 2 days ago
hmmm, I didn’t know that. I figured it was always sexual attraction brought on by pedophilia… cheers
dditty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
Pretty crazy take to voice in a thread about a child-raping teacher…no? Whether a person is sexually attracted to children or not, they should not rape them, and especially not if they are in a profession with in loco parentis legal responsibility?
SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 2 days ago
There were a few pedo defenders in that thread (see the other user that got fully banned for doubling down over and over again). I tagged the profiles making excuses for pedos which is why I knew who OP was (roughly).
Just kinda feel like people who try to equate pedophiles as part of the queer community are probably shitty people. And probably have shitty takes… and looks like they have a lot of shitty takes. So much that theyre whining about getting downvoted.
shalafi@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I have no clue what MAP is, but can you point to the words that hurt you?
We don’t get to choose who and what we are attracted to. 🤷🏻♂️ However, that does not absolve one of immoral actions.
Or do you believe attraction is a choice? You believe people have a choice to be gay or trans? You can’t have it both ways. Pick. One.
PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
MAP mean Minor Attracted Person
edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 21 hours ago
We have a word for that, it’s pedophile. That acronym shit is literally pro pedophile propaganda attempting to normalize it as acceptable.
PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 21 hours ago
Absolutely agreed
phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
You believe people have a choice to be gay or trans?
From a policy and human rights point of view, it’s irrelevant whether it’s a choice or predetermined.
Perspectivist@feddit.uk 2 days ago
Nothing about that comments comes across as defending it. Also, pedophilia is not synonymous with sexual abuse.