I mean… That guy does kinda have a point. Demon Slayers slay more than demons. Speed Racer does more than race (and I never once saw him doing speed). Sailor Moon isn’t just the one titular character. 🤷♂️
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TheNamlessGuy@lemmy.world 3 months ago
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Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 months ago
uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
And you can’t even sail to the moon.
VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 3 months ago
uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
Yeah, yeah, I know, the joke just works better if you pretend thats not a thing 🫥
VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Buffy barely slew any vampires after the second or third season.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 months ago
I believe they even have a couple 4th wall breaking jokes about that, too.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
Scope creep destroys not only software projects.
tetris11@feddit.uk 3 months ago
what a boorish genocidal anime, with such a kickass theme song
stray@pawb.social 3 months ago
I’m not making an argument, but I’m curious whether you feel the same way about demons in Frieren.
tetris11@feddit.uk 3 months ago
I do.
Frieren seems so chill and passive, except when it comes to demons and then it’s like “NO THEIR KIND CANNOT BE TRUSTED”, and everyone’s like “will you chill? it’s just a kid” and she’s like “THE CHILD MUST DIE”
See my stackexchange post asking for clarification on this:
…stackexchange.com/…/on-what-basis-does-frieren-s…
Apparently the answer is “all is explained in the manga, how dare you ask this question”
Feyd@programming.dev 3 months ago
Wow the only thing true in this post is that you asked a question on stack overflow
Gullible@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Couple of things here, demons aren’t an organic species in frieren, they’re crafted directly from magic itself to kill people. They’re 40k orcs, but slower to breed. They’re human shaped because of Darwinian mechanisms that allowed them to live longer in the shape of humans. Each any every one of them is a sociopath masking it with a malevolently high iq, with psychology of an inherently foreign base.
They’re allowed to exist freely, they choose war at every turn as their base. In fact, their king seeks coexistence and understanding, but does so by genociding humanity for a literal millennium in order to build a psychological basis for humankind’s behavior. Some demon leaders suggested that humanity would be completely wiped out to exist long before their king might finally bridge the gap.
Attempts at coexistence continue to occur, but all turned out to be subterfuge, with the ends being genocide. There’s a vague suggestion that this is a time travel based Douglas Adams-esque god crafted world-computer created to quantize human psychology, but that is also monstrous. Anyway, read the comic if you want to understand.
remon@ani.social 3 months ago
Apparently the answer is “all is explained in the manga, how dare you ask this question”
Definitely not, the show is pretty much a 1:1 adaptation of the manga.
Black616Angel@discuss.tchncs.de 3 months ago
Did you read the top reply? It doesn’t even mention the manga and explains exactly, what I would have thought was the answer to your question. Maybe the manga goes more into detail (later?), but the main parts are there:
- Demons are an inherently evil species.
- They are intelligent and I don’t think their intelligence mimics humans, they just sometimes mimic humans to survive (like talking about their mother, which they don’t have)
- They always kill eventually and it was their goal from the get-go.
Do I find this trope boring? A bit.
Does it fit the show? I think so. Is it wrong to have such a species in a show? No.It’s fantasy and most races can work together. Having an irredeemably evil race as enemy just makes it easier to ignore ethical questions in fights (for me and a lot of other people).
Because if the show tells us, that they are indeed always and irredeemably evil, then we can ignore all those questions and just enjoy the fight. (Jajaja, that’s what the Nazisdidstill do, I know!)Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
Downvoted for being right, the fact that more people aren’t suspicious of an anime with a bunch of german names and aesthetics that also just happens to feature a race of non-people who are incurably evil and can never be trusted is baffling to me
stray@pawb.social 3 months ago
Damn, people are real mad you don’t like their elf waifu.
theneverfox@pawb.social 3 months ago
Frieren actually is exploring something here. The demons actually aren’t human, and the show sets her up as appearing intolerant to show that no, these actually just aren’t people
The demons are just demons. They just want to eat people. They’re intelligent, but entirely alien
They’re the old school pure evil anime demons, but in a time where demons in anime have become relatable
degen@midwest.social 3 months ago
You’re getting a lot of shit, but I get you. When the demons were introduced, I had a moment of “ayo what if Frieren is the baddie the whole time and demons are misunderstood”. The only thing is it quickly solidifies that the demons are just evil, even though I don’t necessarily like that one-dimensional narrative of good and evil.
It probably doesn’t help that I finished Attack on Titan just before so I already had elusive, internalized fascism on my mind. I think that’s sort of the point with Frieren though. She’s supposed to be capital G Good, which is inexplicably brutal toward evil, and that’s where the dimensionality comes in.
absentbird@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Do you feel the same way about zombies?
Soulg@ani.social 3 months ago
I hope you learn to enjoy fiction and stop being so miserable for your own sake
AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Idk doesn’t sound very miserable, just sounds like you got angry because they don’t like Frieren.
So, I guess… I hope you learn to enjoy reality and stop being so miserable for your own sake.
onionsinmypores@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
This is very important, thanks