To say it differently, you don’t ask a fish how to go fishing. They would just say “be a delicious worm or bug” and have no concept of rods, reels, locations, or any of the skills involved in actually fishing.
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MsPenguinette@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Most men have no idea what they actually like. I’d be willing to bet most wouldn’t be able to identify light mascara even if they saw it applied
KevonLooney@lemm.ee 7 months ago
FriendOfElphaba@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Yeah, this statement is simply wrong. Men unconsciously notice a lot of things, and they might deny noticing even obvious ones because any acknowledgement of fashion is considered effeminate by some men.
I love the drag queen lashes that are so long they’ll take out the person next to you if you turn your head too fast.
Epzillon@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Very much this. I tried to further explain the reasoning but I realized that it’d just sounded way more incel’y than it needed to.
MarmaladeMermaid@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Agree. Men who go out of their way to evaluate women’s appearances and say they like women with no makeup generally mean they prefer it when women are level ten makeup astronauts who make full face look like “I just woke up this way!”
That said, the full-set lakes that make it visibly hard for a person to blink look really uncomfortable, and that makes me vicariously uncomfortable.
Skates@feddit.nl 7 months ago
How do you evaluate that? I’m really asking, cause I’ve been in long-term relationships, so I’ve gone to bed next to someone who just removed their makeup and liked their face better without it, so please let me know how you evaluate that “generally” that’s what men mean - that they like full face make-up?
Seleni@lemmy.world 7 months ago
There’s two kinds of putting on makeup: the kind where you’re going for drama, and the kind where you try to make it look as natural as possible, highlighting features to make them look better.
Most often, when you see comments about ‘women should look like this!’ And ‘see, women without makeup look better!’ the pictures that go along with the comment are women with a very good version of the second type of makeup.
Skates@feddit.nl 7 months ago
Oh, so you base your assumption of “most men” off of comments you see on the internet. Ok, nevermind then.
MarmaladeMermaid@lemm.ee 7 months ago
My, aren’t we salty.
What I’m saying is, there is a certain type of man who goes around policing women’s appearances and beauty habits on the internet (ew, I wish they wouldn’t wear makeups… so gross!). This type also gets fussy when they have to witness a woman not having a stunningly flawless face (ew, she’s a 3, how dare she exist).
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 months ago
My wife rarely wares makeup and rarely has. I prefer it when she doesn’t, which is good because so does she.
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 7 months ago
It generally means they don’t like women wearing so much make-up it is noticeable even to them.
At least for me. I rather prefer them a little ugly than looking like a clown.
candybrie@lemmy.world 7 months ago
It takes a lot of makeup to create a look where a bunch of guys think there’s no make-up.