Comment on She strongly disagrees

• technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  B/c the whole point of Jesus was pointing out how those old laws are worthless.

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  • Soleos@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Are trying to say Timothy 2:12 is old testament?

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  • zalgotext@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The new testament is full of heinous shit too though. Jesus (who, don’t forget, is still the same vengeful, angry old testament God) condones rape, violence, and killing all throughout it, but says “love thy neighbor” once and everyone thinks he’s gentle as a lamb.

    “I come not to bring peace, but a sword” - Matthew 10:34

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  • Sludgeyy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

    Matthew 5:17

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  • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Christianity continued this tradition by obviating all those old laws l

    This is New Testament!

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• Gladaed@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Not really. The message is love and forgiveness and inclusion. Egality.

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  • chuymatt@startrek.website ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This seems to be a ‘no true Scotsman’ argument.

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    • Gladaed@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s not. You must understand the virtues displayed. And apply them. The wording is not special. We aren’t even reading the original text and cannot speak the old languages with their context of the time of writing without undue effort.

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      • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The virtue is to not let a woman teach or have authority over a man. It is New Testament. There is no mis translation.

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      • Zink@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I think you guys may be using different definitions of what it means to act like a christian. If you disagree on that then you’ll just keep arguing past each other.

        When you refer to acting like a christian that seems to mean acting christ-like, or at least striving to, which makes sense.

        The other usage I’m seeing, and which is probably more prevalent in societal/political discussions, is that being like a christian means being lily the actual group of humans who use that label, which often has nothing to do with christ-likedness other than in name.

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      • w3ird_sloth@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The Bible is full of self-contradictions, so for any interpretive framework to be at least self-coherent, the interpreter has to “add to the Word of God”. Seems about right.

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  • NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And also the opposite of all those things.

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  • jve@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No it isn’t.

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    • ignotum@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Matthew 10 is one of my favourites

      34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

      35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

      36 And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.

      37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

      You love your family? Straight to hell with you! Jesus is jealous

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  • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You’re talking about the gospels maybe, not the bible.

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