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• rumschlumpel@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That’s the stuff on standard non-stick pans (teflon). You don’t make PFAS by burning in some oil at home.

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• FishFace@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  No, and nor is the teflon in the pans you’re thinking if. PFAS is a chemical used in the manufacture of Teflon (or was, I thought they’d stopped now) not teflon itself.
  The problem with PFAS is accidental release and dumping.

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  • Tonava@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    PFAS is a chemical

    PFAS is the term for the whole group of the stuffs called “forever chemicals” (for a reason). There’s not just a single one, but multiple, and as the specific ones and groups get banned, the industries move to use different ones, basically. It’s important to buy “PFAS free” stuff, any other labels like “PFOA free” can still mean there’s PFASs there, there’s just not ones from the specific variation

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    • FishFace@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Damn, you’re right, I was thinking of PFOA not PFAS.

      However, I think blanket avoiding an entire class of chemicals without evidence is an overreaction.

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      • zalgotext@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        But we do have evidence that a lot of chemicals in the PFAS family stick around for a long time, and we have evidence that they’re harmful. That’s enough for me to be wary of anything in that group, especially when there are easy alternatives.

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      • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        How is it an overreaction if it can be done without losing anything in life? I retired all my pans with non-stick coating years ago and haven’t missed them a single time and appreciate that it makes it easier to minimize the number of plastic cooking utensils my kitchen has, too.

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      • Tonava@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I think in the case of PFAS it’s very reasonable. There’s no real harm done in avoiding them except possibly making less money and having to figure out other ways to do certain things - which cannot even be compared to the the potential danger they pose to the whole ecosphere

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      • Dojan@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        There is evidence, and there’s been conspiracies around it.

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• AliasVortex@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Seasoning is just oil baked onto cast iron through a process called polymerization. It gives your cookware that classic black patina. Seasoning forms a natural, easy-release cooking surface and helps prevent your pan from rusting.

  - Lodge (as I understand it, they’re the gold standard for cast iron cookware)

  In the case of non-stick stuff, it’s less that they’re seasoned with PFAS and more that they don’t need seasoning because they have PFAS (at least in theory).

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• Zwiebel@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The seasoning is plastic. That’s what polymerized means. The F in PFAS stands for flourine which I don’t think you’ll have in your seasoning

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  • Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Plastics made from petroleum aren’t the same thing as heated up vegetable oil.

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    • tomi000@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Did they sayil it was?

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• theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  No, that’s the opposite

  You can season nearly anything with oil. Except aluminum, which needs a Teflon coating or it gets nasty very fast. Except Teflon is non reactive to nearly everything

  Except pfas. You can dissolve Teflon in pfas and spray it onto aluminum

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  • Zwiebel@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    ? Teflon is a PFAS

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    • theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes, but not spiritually

      Teflon doesn’t react with basically anything. It won’t stick to anything but itself, which makes manufacturing difficult, initially we could only make pure Teflon pieces

      Every other kind of PFAS is super toxic. Some part of the molecule is reactive, usually very reactive so it sticks to things, and the rest won’t react to anything. That causes nasty problems in biology

      Teflon itself isn’t that much of a problem because even if it’s around forever, it doesn’t react with anything… The byproducts of working with it are what are poisoning people and causing all the problems

      Anything coated in Teflon are going to have the nasty shit under the Teflon so I’d generally avoid it, but the real take away is that chemical companies are just dumping this shit into water sources knowing it causes super cancer

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    • cooper8@kbin.earth ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      PFAS vs PFOS

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