Comment on She's out of town and I'm cleaning her entire collection as a surprise

brokenwing@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• unclejeeves@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Cast iron is “seasoned” to make it nonstick. That means many layers of oil build up as a sort of polymer. The point is to keep it “dirty” in this way. Cleaning it down to bare metal means she’d be forced to re-season it, which can take considerable time/effort depending on frequency of use.

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  • snooggums@piefed.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yes, but missing the nuance that seasoned cast iron that has been cleaned by dish soap has the black polymerized layer while a bunch of morons are opposed to actually cleaning and think burnt on food other than the polymerized oils is 'seasoning'.

    My cast iron isn't anything special but it sheds more water than my non-stick ceramic when turned sideways while cleaning and wiping doesn't leave any black stains on a paper towel.

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    • flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I never figured out how this is reconciled - it just sounds dirty AF (and I’m no clean freak at all!)

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      • thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        you’re supposed to wash cast iron with water, then soap then water again. then you dry, put it on a hot stove, and once all the water evaporates away, you rub it down with some oil on a cloth/paper towel, and get that real hot. then you can turn off the heat, and wipe off excess oil before putting it away. It’s not as straightforward as just tossing it into the dishwasher, but it’s not as complicated as some would have you believe. also, you can wash cast iron. soap doesn’t hurt it.

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    • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Cast iron is non stick without the shenanigans if you follow the hot pan, cold oil protocol. Most people don’t get the pan up to temp before using it and the put in the oil or butter too soon.

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      • snooggums@piefed.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yup. All of my early issues with flaking or a rough surface was due to putting oil on cold and putting too much after to trying to repair it with too much seasoning.

        Eventually saw directions that explained the right way to season as adding lots of thin layers like spray paint, not a coating like house paint. Also explained adding oil after heating kept it from humming ip and causing the same issues. Doesn't even have to be at a high temp either, just wait till it is radiating some heat before adding the oil.

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  • daggermoon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Isn’t the “seasoning” PFAS?

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    • rumschlumpel@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s the stuff on standard non-stick pans (teflon). You don’t make PFAS by burning in some oil at home.

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    • FishFace@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No, and nor is the teflon in the pans you’re thinking if. PFAS is a chemical used in the manufacture of Teflon (or was, I thought they’d stopped now) not teflon itself.
      The problem with PFAS is accidental release and dumping.

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      • Tonava@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        PFAS is a chemical

        PFAS is the term for the whole group of the stuffs called “forever chemicals” (for a reason). There’s not just a single one, but multiple, and as the specific ones and groups get banned, the industries move to use different ones, basically. It’s important to buy “PFAS free” stuff, any other labels like “PFOA free” can still mean there’s PFASs there, there’s just not ones from the specific variation

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    • AliasVortex@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Seasoning is just oil baked onto cast iron through a process called polymerization. It gives your cookware that classic black patina. Seasoning forms a natural, easy-release cooking surface and helps prevent your pan from rusting.

      - Lodge (as I understand it, they’re the gold standard for cast iron cookware)

      In the case of non-stick stuff, it’s less that they’re seasoned with PFAS and more that they don’t need seasoning because they have PFAS (at least in theory).

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    • Zwiebel@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The seasoning is plastic. That’s what polymerized means. The F in PFAS stands for flourine which I don’t think you’ll have in your seasoning

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      • Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Plastics made from petroleum aren’t the same thing as heated up vegetable oil.

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    • theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No, that’s the opposite

      You can season nearly anything with oil. Except aluminum, which needs a Teflon coating or it gets nasty very fast. Except Teflon is non reactive to nearly everything

      Except pfas. You can dissolve Teflon in pfas and spray it onto aluminum

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      • Zwiebel@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        ? Teflon is a PFAS

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• Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Cast iron pans have to be burned in with oil to create a non-stick patina. If you use aggressive cleaning agents or steel wool, this patina gets stripped, and the process has to be repeated

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  • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Could do with that on mine tbh, seasoning starting to flake in patches. Shame as it was getting pretty good.

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