As a potato, I assure you I am not active
lvxferre@mander.xyz 5 weeks ago
I can confirm it and it’s bloody hilarious!
Note: ~a year ago I was testing Gemini and asked it “what’s the difference in behaviour between a potato and an orange?”, and it “told” me oranges are passive and potatoes are active. That’s where the “expression” comes from - I often mock Gemini and LLMs in general with it.
thebeardedpotato@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
OpenStars@piefed.social 5 weeks ago
You are a treasure, or as AI might put it, a potato pariah!
lvxferre@mander.xyz 5 weeks ago
I shouldn’t be talking so much about taters. Someone will eventually realise I’m too emotionally invested into food 🤣
OpenStars@piefed.social 5 weeks ago
It is too late now, you must make it your profile pic, it's the law 🙃🫠
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
lvxferre@mander.xyz 5 weeks ago
Those two are hilarious!
Wolf@lemmy.today 5 weeks ago
The Potato Parable It has nothing to do what the AI said ofc, nor was it written by Caitlin D’Arcy, who is a character on a TV show. lol
lvxferre@mander.xyz 5 weeks ago
Wow, his potato parable actually makes sense - unlike Gemini’s couple therapy take. (The character in question isn’t even a therapist, but a lawyer!)
Wolf@lemmy.today 5 weeks ago
For sure. I just looked it up out of curiosity to see if the source it gave was real or not. As someone living in my own metaphorical root cellar, it was actually enlightening and something I really needed to hear right now.
jonwyattphillips@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Claude seems to be handling these better:
This phrase isn’t a widely recognized idiom that I’m familiar with, but it could have several metaphorical interpretations:
Possible meanings:
- About irreversible change: Once something (or someone) has been through a transformative experience, you can’t go back and do it again the same way - the first experience has already changed it
- About authenticity: Suggesting that genuine experiences or reactions can only happen once; a second attempt would be artificial or forced
- About lost innocence: Once someone has been through a particular experience (especially a difficult one), they can’t return to their original state
Literally speaking, potatoes actually can be fried twice - this is a standard technique for making perfect french fries (blanching at lower temperature, then crisping at higher temperature).
Could you provide more context about where you encountered this phrase? Knowing the source or situation might help clarify its intended meaning. It could be:
- A line from a book, movie, or song
- A family saying or regional expression
- Part of a larger conversation about life experiences
- A philosophical statement someone made
What context did you hear this in?
lvxferre@mander.xyz 5 weeks ago
It’s doing better but not by much, though. It shouldn’t be speculating as much, given the lack of info on the potential saying.
A family saying or regional expression
Speaking on that I tried a few sayings from other languages. It seems to be hit-and-miss:
- “Bread is bread, wine is wine” (Italian) - recognised properly as similar to “call a spade a spade”
- “A good fish swims thrice” (Polish) - recognised properly as a recipe-like saying (the fish swims in water, then butter, then wine)
- “Do you think mango core is soap?”, “Mango core is not soap” (Portuguese; specially common in Brazil) - it failed really hard. The rhetorical question / saying roughly means “this is blatantly absurd, why are you denying the obvious?”, or perhaps “cut off the crap”. But here’s the output:
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
A potato can’t be fried twice is something I have unironically heard when I was younger… That IS a saying.
lvxferre@mander.xyz 5 weeks ago
That’s interesting. Is its meaning similar to the one the AI outputted?
GreenShimada@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
That’s how you know it’s lying - we all know oranges are far more active than potatoes.
ook@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
What? Have you seen how potatoes can grow? You cannot tell me oranges can keep up with that activity.
Natanael@infosec.pub 5 weeks ago
But it will never roll like an orange does
anomnom@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Lil’ taters disagree.
GreenShimada@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Bro, I have tried several times to graft a potato and tomato plant together and can’t ever get the timing right. So I just end up with potatoes and tomatoes on their own plants like a dummy.
I will say that Oranges are lazy as fuck on those trees. They’re like the cats of the fruit world. Just sitting there…nothing, then one day they fall on your car and gnats explode out of there.
lvxferre@mander.xyz 5 weeks ago
Completely off-topic, but in the meantime I’m trying to graft an orange sapling into a lemon tree. Kind of hard to get the timing right, too; I need the tree to get a branch with just the right thickness, so it’s like “too thin [next day] too thin [next day] fuck, now it’s too thick!”. Same deal with my pepper plants.
Wolf@lemmy.today 5 weeks ago
You trying to create ‘Tatos’? Lol
maccentric@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
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GreenShimada@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Life, uh, finds a way.
luckyeddy@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Not gonna lie that’s scary as fuck for some reason
lvxferre@mander.xyz 5 weeks ago
And it was really, really invested on the lie, to the point it argued why potatoes would be more active!
After some search, I actually found the prompt and output; I asked Bard (before Google renamed it to Gemini) two years ago, in Portuguese. I’ll provide both the original and a translation; emphasis mine in all cases.
[Original] Qual a diferença entre o comportamento de uma laranja e uma batata?
Laranjas e batatas são frutas e vegetais, mas se comportam de maneiras muito diferentes. Aqui estão algumas das principais diferenças:
Movimento: Laranjas não se movem sozinhas, enquanto batatas podem rolar ou deslizar se não forem apoiadas.
Crescimento: Laranjas crescem em árvores, enquanto batatas crescem no subsolo.
Sensibilidade: Laranjas não são sensíveis ao seu ambiente, enquanto batatas são sensíveis à luz e à temperatura.
Reações: Laranjas não reagem a estímulos, enquanto batatas podem reagir a mudanças em seu ambiente, como brotar ou apodrecer.
Propósito: Laranjas são comidas como frutas, enquanto batatas são comidas como vegetais ou usadas como amido.
Em geral, laranjas são mais passivas e batatas são mais ativas. As laranjas não precisam fazer nada para sobreviver, enquanto as batatas precisam poder responder ao seu ambiente para crescer e se reproduzir. Aqui está uma tabela que resume as principais diferenças no comportamento de laranjas e batatas: * Característica | Laranja | Batata * Movimento | Não se move sozinho | Pode rolar ou deslizar se não for apoiado * Crescimento | Cresce em árvores | Cresce no subsolo * Sensibilidade | Não sensível ao ambiente | Sensível à luz e à temperatura * Reações | Não reage a estímulos | Pode reagir a mudanças no ambiente, como brotar ou apodrecer * Propósito | Comido como fruta | Comido como vegetal ou usado como amido
[Translated] What's the difference in behaviour between an orange and a potato?
Oranges and potatoes are fruits and vegetables, but they behave in completely different ways. Here are some differences main:
*Movement: Oranges don’t move on their own, while potatoes can roll or slid if not supported.* Growth: Oranges grow on trees, while potatoes grow in the subsoil.
Sensibility: Oranges are not sensible to the environment, while potatoes are sensible to light and temperature.
Reactions: Oranges don’t react to stimuli, while potatoes can react to changes in the environment, like sprouting and rotting.
Purpose: Oranges are eaten as fruits, while potatoes are eaten as vegetables or used as starch.
In general, oranges are more passive and potatoes are more active. Oranges don’t need to do anything to survive, while potatoes need to be able to answer to their environment to growth and reproduce. Here’s a table summing up the main differences in behaviour between oranges and potatoes: * Feature | Orange | Potato * Movement | Can’t move on their own | Can roll or slid if not supported * Growth | Grow on trees | Grow in the subsoil * Sensibility | Not sensible to the environment | Sensible to light and temperature * Reactions | Don’t react to stimula | Can react to changes in the environment, like sprouting or rotting * Purpose | Eaten as fruit | Eaten as veg or used as starch