Maybe calling women lesbians instead of gay allows people to be homophobic while accepting lesbians. After all, the word was invented by men who thought women couldn’t be gay the way men can.
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hushable@lemmy.world 4 days agoI have a similar story to share.
When I was in my early 20s I briefly dated a girl who told me she was having feelings for another woman and was being curious, she eventually broke up with me in order to be with her, but we remained good friends after that.
Eventually she came out as a lesbian and when I told her that I was bi she immediately ended our friendship all even yelled some slurs at me.
AFAIK she’s married with a guy and has kids now
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 4 days ago
Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
I’m curious what the people’s opinions are who downvoted you. Do they disagree or are they just angry? If they disagree they should have left a comment explaining why, so I’m assuming they’re irrationally upset and voicing their opinion would make them look bad maybe?
GeriatricGambino@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Sorry you had to experience this bullshit. I think people like that lack the emotional intelligence to see other people as equals. Instead they only value them as much as whatever personal satisfaction they extract out of them. Intrinsically you’ve lost nothing of value that day, but I know the sudden betrayal of the friendship you thought you had can be shocking and hurtful.
vivalapivo@lemmy.today 4 days ago
Eventually she came out as a lesbian and when I told her that I was bi she immediately ended our friendship
Can’t really imagine it. Even stubborn homophobes do not end friendship over someone coming out. A lot of them just become curious and eventually accepting. Am not LGBTQ+ though, so my judgement is kinda not reliable, but still.
The woman you’re talking about is exceptionally weird and she can go fuck herself
Red_October@piefed.world 4 days ago
It's adorable that you think "stubborn homophobes" wouldn't end a friendship over someone coming out. I genuinely wish they did just become curious and eventually accepting, instead of immediately rejecting and intimidating and expressing feelings of disgust and revulsion.
vivalapivo@lemmy.today 4 days ago
In my 20s I was this homophobe until a friend came up to me. Maybe it’s my projection, idk
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Yeah no i think you just valued that friendship, or your homophobia wasn’t as deep as many’s.
porksnort@slrpnk.net 4 days ago
Your experience is valid, as it happened to you and none of us in this thread were there probably anyway.
In my experience, friends don’t end friendships over homophobia. They just suddenly become very busy and they have less and less time to spend with the person who comes out as bi.
‘Bi erasure’ is such a common phenomenon that we invented the term ‘bi erasure’.
vivalapivo@lemmy.today 4 days ago
Also I come from a different background to the most of those who are here. In Russia, we have this state propaganda that seals homophobia and since nobody is trusting the government propaganda, a lot of people are simply curious what it is to be gay (or bi, trans). And homophobia is not typical to what I hear from my peers in the west: it often has somewhat patronizing form of “don’t you know that if you say you’re gay, you’ll get a lot of trouble”. It was literally the thing I said to a lovely gay couple when we went to the bar in Saint Petersburg.
davidagain@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Wow, that’s some intense double standards there.
rekabis@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
That’s an odd way of saying “ubiquitous female standards”.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
There are cis women out there dating trans women who’ve likely had sex with men. So common yet, but I think ubiquitous isn’t accurate.
rekabis@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
I wasn’t commenting on this particular double standard anywhere as much as double standards, in general; especially those which are almost exclusively one-way and “acceptable” for only women to hold.
frostysauce@lemmy.world 3 days ago
You’ve just been all over this thread with your misogynistic hot takes and telling people how “all women” act. You should get off the internet for a while.
rekabis@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
Mmm-hm. Attempts to socially shame me into silence and an ad hominem on top of that, but not a whisper of a viable rebuttal.
That’s the problem with these censure attempts – always feelings over facts, instead of facts over feelings.