Teflon itself is quite good, getting it to stick to places is the problem.
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A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 1 month agoTeflon freon(CFC)…
Tja@programming.dev 1 month ago
Shareni@programming.dev 1 month ago
Quite good, if you avoid the fact it’s literally everywhere including the atmosphere, doesn’t break down, and causes cancer. But who cares about such little things like cancer causing rain…
Mr_Fish@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Again, that’s from getting it to stick to things. The smaller PTFE chemicals that make it possible to suspend Teflon in water are the problem.
Rooskie91@discuss.online 1 month ago
Teflon is the brand name for for the chemical Polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE). Making PTFE requires PFAS, which are the toxic part. Think of PFAS as little bits of chain varying lengths that get strung together to make the larger PTFE molecule.
The argument you’re making sounds similar to something like “Fossil Fuels are safe, it’s just the CO2 that’s dangerous.” PFAS contaminated water being released to the environment is an unavoidable by produce of making Teflon. You can only make Teflon as a solid without suspending the PFAS in water first.
Here’s a pretty good video about the history, manufacturing process, and toxicity.
BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It’s also what makes it cheap. Making Teflon other ways is much more expensive.
Shareni@programming.dev 1 month ago
It’s releasing a high amount of micro and nano plastics, and those are linked to different health issues including cancer.
www.sciencedirect.com/…/S0048969724027232
our findings suggest that PTFE-MPs-associated toxicity may be specifically linked to the activation of the ERK pathway, which ultimately induces oxidative stress and inflammation.
Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
Teflon itself is inert, but it’s also not needed to avoid that food sticks in a pan. In a good prepared Steel pan food sticks less than in a Teflon pan and is way more resistant to damages. The food sticks in the pan, if you don’t wait to add the food until it’s heated enough, not for other reasons, mistake often don by normal users. Professional cooks never use Teflon pans.
Preparing a Steel pan non-stick
Clean the pan after buy it Heat the pan on the kitchen until it change the color Add some oil and heat somewhat more After this, wait until i’s cold enough and distribute and eliminate the oil film over the whole surface with an kitchen paper. Done
After this, to fry something, add a little oil and wait until the oil has enough heat (test with the handle of a wood spoon, if it forms little bubbles on it in the oil, the temperature is OK), to add the food. It will never stick this way.
Shareni@programming.dev 1 month ago
Teflon itself is inert
About that
our findings suggest that PTFE-MPs-associated toxicity may be specifically linked to the activation of the ERK pathway, which ultimately induces oxidative stress and inflammation.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37419366/
Steel/iron > teflon for sure though.
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 1 month ago
Teflon, on it’s own is safe, the problem are the chemicals used to produce it.
Shareni@programming.dev 1 month ago
Read the rest of my comments…
Tja@programming.dev 1 month ago
Teflon doesn’t cause cancer.
Shareni@programming.dev 1 month ago
It’s releasing a high amount of micro and nano plastics, and those are linked to different health issues including cancer.
www.sciencedirect.com/…/S0048969724027232
our findings suggest that PTFE-MPs-associated toxicity may be specifically linked to the activation of the ERK pathway, which ultimately induces oxidative stress and inflammation.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
I mean, it might… but we haven’t shown it does.
Midnitte@beehaw.org 1 month ago
Modern teflon, sure.
But there’s a reason its no longer made with PFOA.
Studies have looked at cancer rates in people living near or working in PFOA-related chemical plants. Some of these studies have suggested an increased risk of testicular cancer and kidney cancer with increased PFOA exposure. Studies have also suggested a possible link to thyroid cancer, but the increases in risk have been small and could have been due to chance. - Source
Midnitte@beehaw.org 1 month ago
In the same way Asbestos is a great material, just one small problem
Tja@programming.dev 1 month ago
Asbestos itself is toxic. Teflon is inert.
fckreddit@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
Asbestos makes for a great cigarette filter material, though.
Midnitte@beehaw.org 1 month ago
It is certainly… impactful for your lungs.
Mambert@beehaw.org 1 month ago
We are too weak for the miracle of asbestos.
ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
In Denmark there was until very recently a factory doing something with teflon. That shit got launched out the chimney and just rained down everywhere.
Tja@programming.dev 1 month ago
Yeah, every factory that does “something” with Teflon probably wants to stick it to things, which are the problematic chemicals, not Teflon itself.
SW42@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Teflon is just the brand name. I believe it’s called Polytetrafluorethylene, thus ending in ne :)
craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Thank dog, we’re saved
lemmyknow@lemmy.today 1 month ago
SW42 shall forever be remembered a hero, who saved the world from a dark path
olafurp@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Known also as PFAS or forever chemicals