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vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Daycare is kind of intense.

  You have a bunch of parents who would rather be with their kids. They’re paying close to their own mortgage/rent to have their kids watched. They’re convinced that the teens/young adults the daycare hires are not doing anything. Their kids are there with a load of other kids, pick up bad habits, get bullied and yelled at by kids in worse home situations. As soon any any scratch or scrape happens they want to know know for those prices.

  The timesheets give them solace that their kid is being watched, fed, changed, and taken care of emotionally.

  it’s not necessary, but it’s not hard to see why it happens

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• jj4211@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Looks like a daycare that’s taking care of toddlers and infants. Logging these events makes a bit more sense as you have to be at least roughly aware of this stuff to keep an eye out for potential health issues. The kid isn’t able to convey things directly so you have to look for signs. If diapers aren’t being soiled, then you might need a medical exam, for example.

  The precision of the timestamps might seem a bit needlessly specific, but if you are noting it electronically, might as well let the system time-stamp it.

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  • iii@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Don’t think it’s system timestamps, as they’re curiously round

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    • jj4211@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I suppose it could be possible that the humans are entering it, also possible the timestamps are just being rounded by the system. Guess it’s hard to say, though I still say that a daycare that includes infants can reasonably be expected to log this sort of activity in case something goes wrong that would only show up as a loss of appetite or lack of bowel movement or explaining an otherwise unrecognized injury incurred during an assasination.

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• ricecake@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  That doesn’t seem weirdly detailed to me? Kid bumped their head and they wrote down what happened.

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  • iii@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Look at the timestamps: 1:20 1:30 1:40 2:30 rediculous.

    Could just go: oh yeah he bumped his head today when parents come pick him up instead.

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    • ricecake@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It’s an app. Do you actually think they’re manually entering the time? The app is probably just rounding to the nearest 10 for display purposes. There’s also a legal obligation to fill out an incident report.
      You’re caring for someone else’s child and the law says if you felt the need to do something (ice pack) then the parents deserve documentation with timeline and response. Do you have a different criteria that’s good for when a non-medical caregiver should need to tell a parent something happened to their kid?

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      • iii@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        just rounding to the nearest 10 for display purposes.

        For no good reason.

        the law says if you felt the need to do…

        Luckily the law is different where I live. I’d rather have my child taken care of by a human, rather than a flowchart

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    • Ledivin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Sounds like a really good way to have half of these things forgotten throughout the day and never told to the parents 🤷‍♂️ logging this on the tablet takes literally 5 seconds, instead of having to spend 5 minutes with each parent at pickup

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      • iii@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Yeah, I’d also rather talk with the person taking care of my child. So you can tell how they’re doing, as this will reflect on your kid. I prefer those 5 minutes.

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• Tangent5280@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  In their defence looking through the black bars reveals that there are multiple caretakers collectively taking care of the children, so it becomes necessary to track what care has already been given to the kids so all the adults can coordinate.

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  • mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    no??? If thats the case the groups are too big!! I have a child in daycare and I’d be horrified if there was such a bustle that the adults need to log every action they take because otherwise a kid might not get his diapers changed!!

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    • Trainguyrom@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Half the time I have to check with my wife what cares were done recently when my nonverbal kid gets fussy to try to identify why they’re fussy. Logging makes it so instead of asking one can check the log, especially useful if the previous care person isn’t available to be asked now

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    • 5too@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I’m not sure I agree. 10 or so kids lets them get a lot of practice socializing, with 3-4 caretakers. Without a tool like this, it’s really easy to miss that nobody’s needed to change little Mikey’s diaper today - but that’s information that can be important for them and the parents to know.

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    • ricecake@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I also have kids in daycare, and while they’re able to provide ample individual care, once you get past one adult to a specific set of kids and the kids swap between adults it becomes a much greater risk of missing someone’s need because they can’t communicate it clearly.
      It also can make it faster to know when something last happened if you weren’t the one to do it. If a kids fussy and the person who’s been looking after them all morning has gone to lunch you can just look over and see that they got up from a nap recently, got a diaper change and that it’s almost time for food.

      It’s not about cramming so many kids in that you can barely keep track and more about recognizing that you’re caring for someone else’s kids and so taking every reasonable step to ensure there aren’t mistakes, as well as demonstrating to the parents that you’ve done so.
      Our daycare has a list on the wall with the name of every kid in the room next to their evacuation plan and emergency kit (big baby/little baby rooms are connected. Sometimes they rebalance for lunch or just different activities which is when they update the list) I have absolute confidence that in the event of an emergency they wouldn’t need to use the list, and also that they would still go down the list and look directly at each kid and also do a sweep while doing whatever response they needed.

      As someone who’s done a bit of work on procedures around systems and making sure they avoid negative outcomes I appreciate there being a process and checklist that’s routinely followed.

      Also, the digital lists are really more for the parents to be informed about what’s going on. I know that I appreciate knowing where precisely they are in their routine when I do pickup.

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    • Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Sounds like your kid goes to a horrible childcare.

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• echodot@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I have to log timesheets at work to say what I’ve been doing. I have a section everyday in my timetable schedule to fill in the timesheet. So when I’m feeling in the timesheet I have to actually tell them what I was doing for that 4 minutes worth of time.

  3:30 p.m. to 3:34 p.m. - filling in timesheet

  Really?

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  • Bgugi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    This was unironically one of the worst jobs I ever worked. Management spent months trying to figure out why the night shift couldn’t keep up with the same routine work day shift did.

    For some reason 2 people < 25 people never really clicked.

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• Electricd@lemmybefree.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  People want to know

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  • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    If I had a kid I would want them to spend as much time as possible looking after the kid. I don’t need them to tell me that they’re doing that, I assumed that they’re doing that so I’m no better off.

    Also everyone estimates those things anyway.

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    • Electricd@lemmybefree.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      You might overestimate the time it takes to fill reports. It gives them more time anyways because else parents would discuss with them after work

      It’s also nice to detect any potential problem or trend

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    • Dozzi92@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      So at that age, all the kids nap at the same time. I guarantee that’s when teacher is sitting there filling these things out; hence, 120, 130, 140. It’s remarkable how efficiently run these places are. And I had the misfortune of my kids’ first daycare (two block walk from my house) getting flooded, going to a second one of their centers miles away, and then switching to another one that’s less than a mile from my home now. I saw consistently efficient operations across all three over the past 7 years (and much dollars).

      And one thing that I have always believed to be the most important about having my kids in daycare was getting them into groups of their peers. They get plenty of time to “socialize,” especially the older they get, and so the teachers (generally) don’t need to be constantly interacting with them.

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    • jeroenvaes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Sorry but it’s obvious you don’t have kids. You need to know when and how much formula your baby had to not overfeed them. You need to know what a toddler ate if he comes home and throws up/has diarrhea/gets a sudden rash. You need to know when his diaper was changed so you know if you need to change it again when you get home. Etc. You really need that info, and people working in daycare absolutely don’t ballpark this as they need to know it as well and they have 18 other kids to take care of so they can’t remember it all.

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      • Dozzi92@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Yeah, my son is older now, wrapping up daycare (thank God), but still gets the reports. He’s four, so communication isn’t exactly the greatest, but it’s there, and I go through that daily report with him at night to help refresh his recollection about his day at school, things he learned, events that occurred. Without the report, I know I’m going to get a lot of I don’t knows and I don’t remembers.

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