But us onlookers can’t even know for sure what these frictions are, only speculate.
I’ve looked at an interview with an Israeli political sciences professor yesterday, that went something like this:
- Professor: "…and this is why countries like Israel have the right to defend themselves"
- Host: "Right. What about the Pales…"
- Professor: "That’s not an issue"
- Host: "There are civilian…"
- Profesor: "Israeli civilians have been harmed and we need to respond"
- Host: "Is the response proportion…"
- Professor: "Respond to destroy the terrorists"
- Host: "It seems like Gaza population is…"
- Professor: “Gaza is Israel, there is no population, we need to rid it of terrorists”
As an onlooker, I’d say that’s is a FREAKING HUGE “friction” when one side denies the existence of the other.
kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
That’s one of the most reasonable responses to this madness I’ve seen recently.
Far too many people are out there demanding instant information with 100% accuracy and crying conspiracy when they can’t get their impossible wish.
krellor@kbin.social 1 year ago
I think even worse than the expectation of instant knowledge is the expectation that everyone must pick a side and must do it now. There are dozens of conflicts around the world with atrocities being committed, but this is the only one you consistently get called out for not picking a side.
I think it's healthy for people outside of the conflict to ultimately feel one side has more or less justification, while still acknowledging their faults and mistakes.
brygphilomena@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I am woefully ignorant on the politics and history of the region and it’s people.
Recognizing this, I cannot lay my support for either side. Somehow, to many this is an incorrect stance and I must have an opinion and pick a side.
It would take considerable time and effort to learn the background and create an informed independent opinion as I do not trust the news to give me an unbiased report of the war. It would be unrealistic to think everyone can do this, and so I think we should normalize people not taking a side.
krellor@kbin.social 1 year ago
Sometimes "I don't know" is the only correct response yet one so few are willing to give. Kudos.
DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
Yeah, I’ve had some nauseating back and forth with several users who just can’t seem to grasp the notion that criticising Israel does not mean you support Hamas.
Epicurus0319@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
And the other way around
e_mc2@feddit.nl 1 year ago
My experience is actually quite the opposite. In (real world) discussions I had so far I see that most people just talk about the horrific consequences of this war, with so many innocent casualties on both sides. People are often _not _ picking sides because this is such an old and complex conflict with atrocities perpetrated on both sides. Which imho is the most reasonable thing to do. Yes, what Hamas did on that festival and is it still doing is disgusting, but Israel’s response since then is equally disgusting. It’s just impossible to condemn one side while excusing the other.
squaresinger@feddit.de 1 year ago
To be fair, it was quite similar with Russia vs Ukraine, but by now seemingly everyone has forgotten that that’s still a thing.