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Comment on Asus and Lenovo’s handhelds get price hike as Valve pauses some Steam Deck sales
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month agoStop.
Pre-Ordering.
natecox@programming.dev 1 month ago
SuperSpecialNickname@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
You’re the one enabling those shitty practices
localhost443@discuss.tchncs.de 1 month ago
A savings account earns interest, you can pay into it monthly until product release…
How does paying up front before release spread the cost?
natecox@programming.dev 1 month ago
[deleted]Don_alForno@feddit.org 1 month ago
I genuinely don’t get the “don’t pre order just buy the day it releases” thing.
Nobody ever said the second part.
Don’t pre order, wait for reviews a couple weeks after release, buy if reviews are good and no major bullshit is discovered.
What do you think you’re winning?
Avoiding the major bullshit.
Also, even if you did just buy day one: If developers have a lot of pre orders they know they’ll sell anyway they have less of an incentive to deliver the highest possible quality.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
I genuinely don’t get the “don’t pre order just buy the day it releases” thing. What do you think you’re winning?
It’s about sending a message. A message that pre-ordering is not worth anymore and they (hopefully) stop releasing unfinished beta releases.
Railcar8095@lemm.ee 1 month ago
How does that spread the cost? Does it have some financing for preorders ?
natecox@programming.dev 1 month ago
[deleted]Railcar8095@lemm.ee 1 month ago
I advice you to rethink this. You’re paying earlier, the money won’t dissapear if you wait until release. Also, real reviews would help deciding what to skip.
echodot@feddit.uk 1 month ago
I would agree normally but it’s Lenovo.
SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
I never pre-order, and I am not advocating for pre-ordering, but just curious, can’t the item just be returned if the customer is not satisfied?
callouscomic@lemm.ee 1 month ago
I bet you think General Strikes are also possible or effective.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Idk. But I think General Grievous could have been even better /s
Dremor@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Works pretty well in France.
Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Do you even know why you’re saying that? Physical goods that need to be manufactured and delivered are literally exactly what you should be pre-ordering
ulterno@programming.dev 1 month ago
It would make a lot of sense to the company trying to decide how large their production run should be.
For the customer, it only really makes sense if they are getting something out of it, like immunity to possible price hikes at launch.
I don’t pre-order, but then, I am a late stage buyer, so it doesn’t really apply to me.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Yes and no.
Yes it can make sense fpr physical goods.
No, it’s not a good thing.Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
So no. I was hoping my question would prompt you to consider it
Ulrich@feddit.org 1 month ago
Physical goods are no different in that when you pre-order something you really have no idea what you’re getting. You’re counting on the reputation of the company to deliver on their claims. Which is often a bad idea.
msage@programming.dev 1 month ago
I pre-ordered the Steam Deck.
That is the only thing I did in the last decade.
Mistic@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Pre-ordering physical goods is fine, especially if you expect a price hike and supply limitations after launch. I wouldn’t, but I can see how it would make sense.
It’s the digital goods that make no goddamn sense to buy before they’re out. They’re not limited in supply, and their return window is too small.
winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Ever heard of the Ouya?
zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 1 month ago
You’re a dumbass if you ever thought it was going to be anything
Mistic@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Wasn’t it a kickstarter product? I wouldn’t consider venture a pre-order, tbf.
Pre-orders are reservations with pre-payment.
Crowdfunding is, well, funding. You aren’t buying a product. You’re funding it, which comes with additional risks and benefits.
Of course, there’s always a possibility that a product is being funded using pre-orders, which is financially irresponsible (norm varies from industry to industry). But you must be a moron to pre-order a product from a startup you know nothing about and expect not to get scammed. Outright buying their product would be risky enough.
Take housing market. You’re pretty much always either pre-ordering or buying second-hand.
Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
As long as i can chargeback on my credit card I have no problems preordering (couple months out at most though, lol at people doing long term pre orders) I have no problem. Digital goods can fuck right on off. So many slimy tactics.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Meh.
Yes, for already announced limited runs of physical items that you know the quality off (say merch from artists) it’s more fine than for mainly digital goods.
And, I have to agree, such a broad blanket statement is not really applicable to every type of purchase or life situation.
To be fully transparent: Even I participated in pre-orders. Off the top I can only remember some artist merch items like CDs I pre-heard some tracks and know what to expect from it and the Kickstarter for the uGreen NAS. But even for the uGreen NAS I knew the specs, price and if It’s compatible with what I want to do before committing.
For any other purchase I waited patiently.