Comment on Asus and Lenovo’s handhelds get price hike as Valve pauses some Steam Deck sales

natecox@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Stop.
  Pre-Ordering.

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  • Mistic@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Pre-ordering physical goods is fine, especially if you expect a price hike and supply limitations after launch. I wouldn’t, but I can see how it would make sense.

    It’s the digital goods that make no goddamn sense to buy before they’re out. They’re not limited in supply, and their return window is too small.

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    • winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ever heard of the Ouya?

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      • zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You’re a dumbass if you ever thought it was going to be anything

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      • Mistic@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Wasn’t it a kickstarter product? I wouldn’t consider venture a pre-order, tbf.

        Pre-orders are reservations with pre-payment.

        Crowdfunding is, well, funding. You aren’t buying a product. You’re funding it, which comes with additional risks and benefits.

        Of course, there’s always a possibility that a product is being funded using pre-orders, which is financially irresponsible (norm varies from industry to industry). But you must be a moron to pre-order a product from a startup you know nothing about and expect not to get scammed. Outright buying their product would be risky enough.

        Take housing market. You’re pretty much always either pre-ordering or buying second-hand.

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    • Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      As long as i can chargeback on my credit card I have no problems preordering (couple months out at most though, lol at people doing long term pre orders) I have no problem. Digital goods can fuck right on off. So many slimy tactics.

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    • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Meh.
      Yes, for already announced limited runs of physical items that you know the quality off (say merch from artists) it’s more fine than for mainly digital goods.
      And, I have to agree, such a broad blanket statement is not really applicable to every type of purchase or life situation.

      To be fully transparent: Even I participated in pre-orders. Off the top I can only remember some artist merch items like CDs I pre-heard some tracks and know what to expect from it and the Kickstarter for the uGreen NAS. But even for the uGreen NAS I knew the specs, price and if It’s compatible with what I want to do before committing.
      For any other purchase I waited patiently.

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  • natecox@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • SuperSpecialNickname@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You’re the one enabling those shitty practices

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    • localhost443@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      A savings account earns interest, you can pay into it monthly until product release…

      How does paying up front before release spread the cost?

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      • natecox@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • Railcar8095@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      How does that spread the cost? Does it have some financing for preorders ?

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I would agree normally but it’s Lenovo.

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  • SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I never pre-order, and I am not advocating for pre-ordering, but just curious, can’t the item just be returned if the customer is not satisfied?

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  • callouscomic@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I bet you think General Strikes are also possible or effective.

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    • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Idk. But I think General Grievous could have been even better /s

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    • Dremor@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Works pretty well in France.

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  • Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Do you even know why you’re saying that? Physical goods that need to be manufactured and delivered are literally exactly what you should be pre-ordering

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    • ulterno@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It would make a lot of sense to the company trying to decide how large their production run should be.

      For the customer, it only really makes sense if they are getting something out of it, like immunity to possible price hikes at launch.

      I don’t pre-order, but then, I am a late stage buyer, so it doesn’t really apply to me.

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    • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes and no.
      Yes it can make sense fpr physical goods.
      No, it’s not a good thing.

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      • Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        So no. I was hoping my question would prompt you to consider it

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    • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Physical goods are no different in that when you pre-order something you really have no idea what you’re getting. You’re counting on the reputation of the company to deliver on their claims. Which is often a bad idea.

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  • msage@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I pre-ordered the Steam Deck.

    That is the only thing I did in the last decade.

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