Except for the fact that a lot of these people aren’t capable of managing money.
They are on the street because they have serious issues
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oz1sej@feddit.dk 4 days ago
Seldom have I seen a better example of why universal basic income is so preferable to food banks.
Except for the fact that a lot of these people aren’t capable of managing money.
They are on the street because they have serious issues
Turns out that money is one of those things that the less you have of it, the harder it is to manage.
It is also a bit tricky when you can’t read or write and are struggling with schizophrenia, bipolar and other disruptive issues.
Indeed.
Each of the issues you described is mitigated - if not cured - by steady income. And each is greatly exacerbated by a lack of such income.
What is really important is that the family and friends of the people struggling with these conditions aren’t also impoverished. The outcomes of each these conditions are vastly improved when the sufferer’s caregivers have the time and resources to attend to them.
And who’s supporting them?
Clearly not you.
Yeah, but the crux of it would probably lie in the fact that they’ve never had money to manage. From what I’ve seen, everyone mismanages their money. If we had basic income, I would guess 90%+ would eventually get their shit together. 10 people needing food because they can’t manage money is better than 100 people needing food because they don’t have money.
Yeah, some of them need assisted living as well.
I never said all of them.
I’m just speaking from my experience volunteering to help
Yes, it’s probably good to note, although in this context it sounded like you were giving a reason government help would be pointless.
Have an upvote, friend.
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 4 days ago
Please explain how that would solve the issue of people not wanting to eat their vegetables.
cooopsspace@infosec.pub 4 days ago
Missed the mark here of course.
People should be able to buy what they need, not be at the whims of what a capitalist entity dumps in a food bank.
Not everyone has the ability to store, prepare or even cook vegetables. Due to lack of utensils, food storage or even something to heat with. For many, vegetables would just be a liability and force you to choose between other necessities.
MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
the downvotes are part of the education
cooopsspace@infosec.pub 4 days ago
You know, you’re right.
Especially after the guy doubled and tripled down on his stupid comments.
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 4 days ago
Something something beggars can’t be choosers.
Cooking cauliflower isn’t rocket science. All you need is a pot and some water, and maybe a bit of salt. You can even eat it with your hands if you lack utensils. It’s also good raw with some ranch dressing. You’re making it sound a lot more complicated than it really is.
someguy3@lemmy.world 4 days ago
It’s not cooking some cauliflower, it’s cooking a shit ton of cauliflower. And storing it before and after cooking. Some places you only buy a couple days worth of food because you have a tiny place. And that’s actually housed people, if you’re unhoused you can’t store shit.
Asswardbackaddict@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Sounds like you’ve had a nice, pampered life, princess.
cooopsspace@infosec.pub 4 days ago
You’ve just added like 10kg of carrying requirements to someone who likely has all their worldly possessions on their back.
Krauerking@lemy.lol 4 days ago
Wow you didn’t use a single brain cell considering that from any other perspective than your own with that comment.
Just wanted to confirm that, cause that is the vibe you seem to have purposely put out there.
Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
OP (this dickhead):
OOP:
They can’t give it away. There are unfortunately rules. If they were caught doing so, they would no longer be giving it out to anyone. This is, again, why basic income would be better than food banks.
Not to mention the fact that plenty of people aren’t starving today, but will be starving in the next week or two, after this very perishable food is spoiled.
Why are you like this? Are you having fun mocking the impoverished?
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 4 days ago
Are you dense? The OP said they tried giving it away but nobody wanted it. I guess people must not really be starving that badly if storing it is their main concern. UBI isn’t going to solve that because if people won’t even take it for free they sure as hell aren’t going to pay for it.
Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
It wasn’t homeless or starving people turning it away. It was other organizations that didn’t have the space to store it. Probably because their shelves were also full of food that they need to give away before it spoils.
… How exactly do you imagine this works? How do you accept food that you can’t put anywhere? Let me guess, you think they should just bring it to the homeless? Well:
He literally can’t bring the food to the starving. If he could, the food would all be eaten by the people that need it. There are people that absolutely will take and eat this food because they are starving, but OP can’t deliver it to them.
crusty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
Where did you read that? I’m actually curious, please quote!
nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 3 days ago
I said they did not want it in large quantities. Most of the people who come through the bank are conscious of other’s and know they do not have the time or means to deal with all of the extra fresh produce while working multiple jobs, or some live in a motel room with only a microwave. So they do not take something that maybe someone else could use. We did have some people taking cases. But not everyone can deal with that.
Everyone was given, I think, 4 heads of cauliflower and a dozen tomatoes in their cart. Very few did not take them. They were also offered a case of veggies. Which most declined. Hell I did not even take a full case myself because I know I did not have time to process it.
burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 4 days ago
i cast ten thousand watermelons falling on top of you
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 4 days ago
Yay, free watermelons!
Shardikprime@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Oh no, a fruity mass driver!