Comment on Just got charged for reading it

robotica@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• ryedaft@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  What, you don’t have that? My electric bill has a rate, a rate for the network, a subscription fee, electricity green taxes, and sales tax. I’m European.

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  • null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Australia checking in. We have the price per Kw, and the number of Kw consumed.

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    • AsslessChaps@lemmynsfw.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Also Australian. I get a $0.87 per day supply charge plus kWh used.

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    • Taleya@aussie.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Stage one Stage two Service fees Other (E)

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  • PieMePlenty@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Here it boils down to:

    • Network power (fixed fee based on your max power needs, depends on time as well)
    • Network energy transfer (fee for energy transfered, here its about 0.018€/kwh)
    • Energy (fee on the energy used, about 0.146€/kwh right now)
    • Taxes
    • some bullshit for maintenance and running an open market portal for companies to buy/sell energy

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  • calavera@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Nothing beats Portugal:

    Kwh rate Social electricity finance tax General economic costs fee Infrastructure utilization fee Energy and geology exploration tax Electricity consumption Special tax Audiovisual contribution Sales tax

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    • ryedaft@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Audiovisual contribution? I love it 10/10 no notes

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      • calavera@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        It’s to finance the Portuguese version of BBC. Called RTP. The funny part is that it’s also used for the sales tax calculation, so the meme from OP actually exists

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  • albert180@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Usually taxes and transmission fees are rolled into the kWh Price you are shown when enrolling into the contract

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• Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Land of the fee and the home of the slave.

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• mattd@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Yeah probably. I’m in the US. Here’s how my bill is broken down:

  Generation Service Charge
  Customer Charge
  Distribution Charge
  Transition Charge
  Transmission Charge
  Net Meter Recovery Surcharge
  Revenue Decoupling Charge
  Distributed Solar Charge
  Renewable Energy Charge
  Energy Efficiency Charge
  Electric Vehicle Program

  Two of them (transition and revenue decoupling charges) are actually a credit of about $1 each

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  • Zwiebel@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    • Consumption charge: 183€
    • Base fee: 182€
    • Electricity tax: 15€
    • Revenue tax: 72€

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    • calavera@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Wtf that’s expensive

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      • Strider@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Yeah we’re working on avoiding any kind of “Energiewende”

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• PriorityMotif@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  You’re allowed to buy electricity from a separate broker than your “power company” so they split the bill between power usage and service fees plus there’s state and local taxes.

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  • db2@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Being allowed to on paper and actually being able to are wildly different things. They’re monopolies in most areas that get away with it by stringently denying that fact. Same with cable companies.

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  • LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    You’re allowed to buy electricity from a separate broker than your “power company”

    I’m curious about this, would you be willing to elaborate?

    Where I live we don’t have a choice of electricity providers for my home. Are you talking about states that have deregulated energy markets?

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    • PriorityMotif@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Yes, they’re called retail electric suppliers. Some have offers to lock in a fixed Price for a year and others have variable rates. Then you can choose to have power billed separately from delivery or not.

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• MisterFrog@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Your country had better have a state owned grid, with a state run retailer, else this is still the same sort of shit, just without hidden fees.

  Sincerely, an annoyed Victorian/Australian that wishes their electricity was just managed by the state.

  There may be no hidden fees where I’m from, but when there’s a private company with a monopoly, what’s the difference?

  Capitalism/privatisation is such a scam

  :(

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• twice_hatch@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  My bill in Illinois isn’t like this. There’s a couple fees to stay hooked into the grid and then a flat rate per unit energy

  Variable rate would be nicer but I’m too busy to set it up

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• then_three_more@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  In the UK it’s all rolled up into the “service charge”. Including the “loads of other companies couldn’t manage themselves properly and went bust and we had to take on their customers fee”

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  • Zwiebel@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Same in Germany, it’s called “base fee”

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