Comment on CD Projekt exec says "the right thing to do" is release a real Nintendo Switch 2 cartridge for Cyberpunk 2077, not a game-key card, in message to other studios: "Do not underestimate the physical edit

• SomethingBurger@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  They used the No Man’s Sky strategy: release trash, polish it a bit, then get praised for improving while the game is still nowhere near what was promised.

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  • UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    They arguably did worse, because NMS didn’t just polish the game, they retroactively added most of the content + didn’t release a DLC. Cyberpunk falls short of what has been promised to this day.

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    • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I’m not sure what most people were expecting but I finally got around to playing the GOTY edition recently.

      I got a game with great characters, writing and story, slightly average gameplay, all shackled to a bizarre open world that completely destroys any pacing and urgency. It really did not need all those fixers and like 150 police mini missions, which detract from it all in a major way.

      Having also played Witcher 3, that’s kind of what I was expecting, I guess. I genuinely think CDPR should abandon their open world ideas, because they’re excellent at story telling, but really bad at filler bullshit.

      Phantom Liberty ups the package to a flawed masterpiece.

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      • UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        That’s funny, I would point put the amazing gameplay in particular as their no. 1 selling point, if I had to choose anything. But the discussion what’s good and what’s bad aside, they just didn’t deliver on their promises.

        I was fed the story of a GTA contender. A life-sim where your choices matter, starting with your origin story, which was supposed to already have great impact. And what does reality look like? Well, your origin story gets you a different tutorial mission and you get a few extra dialog options that do nothing. Your character always behaves exactly the same outside of that and it changes nothing about the story. It’s hardly even referenced by other characters at all, something Mass Effect and Dragon Age did better forever ago. The one big difference I noticed is that Jackie matters even less to you as corpo, which makes all the emotional stuff feel even more out of place and awkward, since you lose the offrenda mission. Hurray.

        As for life-sim aspects, you can eat in some select few cut scenes, otherwise eating is useless and doesn’t even come with generic animations. You cannot even eat your useless food at a stall in the city or have a drink at the countless bars in the game just for fun. Except for cutscenes and in your, save for the wardrobe, useless apartment of course. You can also take a useless shower, or wait in bed instead of literally anywhere else. Wow.

        You can randomly date a select few characters out of nowhere by choosing a random dialogue option. At least this yields you an almost sex-scene and a bonus quest… Followed by optional, awkward staring in your apartment and no further impact at all. Funnily enough your gender has a greater impact on the game than your backstory that way.

        NPCs are generally dumb and you can’t really interact much with them at all. Police is dumb and easily outsmarted as well, but also always punishes you by death for anything. MaxTac is really tough actually and beating them yields you… Nothing! Nothing at all.

        You do get a couple of choices throughout the story, but do they really change all that much? I would argue no, they don’t. Most of the time they cause some characters you barely know to live or die. Not the really important ones of course! We need those and there aren’t that many. I think one of the most interesting interactions in the entire game is the one with the ranom Natwatch guy, because you can’t really forsee the consequences for once.

        Then there are a couple of different endings, some of which are actually hard to find. I think in retrospective, they are the main thing, besides the very varied gameplay, offering replay-value. The thing is, you don’t need to replay the game to see them all.

        Is Cyberpunk trash? No, of course not, I’ve had my fair share of fun. I’m actually in my third playthrough to do liberty city, because everyone says it’s amazing. As for the main game only, I can’t help but be disappointed by the countless things this game doesn’t do. Including many low hanging fruits.

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      • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’m not sure what most people were expecting

        People were expecting the game that was promised in all the lead-up marketing.

        CD Projekt has been building up expectations, previewing intriguing scenes and customizations that never came to pass.

        It went to promise real-time AI that would grant over a thousand NPCs a variety of roles and actions that, complete with a day/night cycle, was designed to change up their routines. But as fans began playing, they quickly discovered this wasn’t true.

        Then, there are the gameplay and AI issues that hinder the experience. A game like Cyberpunk 2077 runs on crime, and CD Projekt promised realistic interactions with the police. One would fully expect officers to come running if a crime was committed out in the open with witnesses, or even in a remote alleyway. Sadly, there is nothing realistic about a bunch of cops spawning unexpectedly around the player with guns firing – especially if no one even witnessed the crime.

        Basically all of the marketing turned out to be lies and the game that CDPR promised never existed.

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  • caseofthematts@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s why I’ll never get it unless obtained for the good ol’ price of free. I’m glad people are enjoying it and it’s much improved over the trash pile they delivered! But it’s still a very different game than advertised.

    Frankly, it’s concerning how quickly the narrative shifted on this. You’d think with the internet recording the whole fiasco, there wouldn’t be a quick narrative shift and misinformation on the subject, but people have convinced themselves the launch wasn’t that bad, Sony somehow screwed them and this is what they said the game would be!

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    • ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      One’s mileage could vary wildly at launch with that game. It did work just fine for me, with some minimal jank, but I could clearly see the video evidence others had of their bad time.

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      • caseofthematts@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Oh absolutely. I know it wasn’t super janky for everyone - but the fact is that it was so broken on launch for not just PC, but PS as well. The mass refunds, which Sony has never done, etc. Denying that this was a thing is what the narrative seems to be for many.

        I’m glad it worked for you on launch, and hope you had a great time playing it!

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  • levzzz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I agree, but nms probably did it better

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  • dumblederp@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Battlefield 2042 tried that and still seems to be widely hated. I like it, it was on sale recently and would’ve been a good buy for $7 bucks.

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    • Maven@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      That game also happens to have some of the worst enemy AI I’ve ever seen in any game ever

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      • dumblederp@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Uhh, it’s mostly a PvP game, there’s only ever AI when a round isn’t full.

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• OmegaLemmy@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  No… They built on what they managed to make instead. Frankly, a more manageable solution

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  • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Ah the ol’bait’n’switch, a classic.

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