Japan takes the garbage bins away from cafes?
Comment on The gentrified forest near me removed the bins. .. From their café/picnic area
Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 1 week ago
Weird, when Japan does it everyone praises them. I guess us western societies are just too trashy to clean up after ourselves.
Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
MelonYellow@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
No they’re there, however there aren’t trash bins once you leave the food vendor. So people just finish eating and dispose the trash there. If they do carry-out, they will pack their trash for disposal at home (you’ll see a ton of people walking around with backpacks and totebags).
barsoap@lemm.ee 1 week ago
It’s not actually much different in Germany, there’s zero bins just randomly lining the streets. Areas with shops will have some, parks and playgrounds usually have one or two, but that’s it. “Park” here is to be understood quite broadly, it might be a footpath with nice view and some benches. Bus stops also tend to have bins.
Stovetop@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I’ve never been to a Japanese cafe, but knowing what I know about them from Japanese acquaintances, yeah, mostly.
They’d probably either use actual dishware that is returned and washed, or yes, expect people to bring disposable waste home with them. Everything I’ve heard is that public trash bins are not non-existent, but they are rare.
MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 1 week ago
Lots of corner stores and vending machines in Japan that sell basically full meals and no trash can in sight.
I don’t think people realize that custodial staff are different than general park staff. If they have bins then they need to deal with that whole process and have at least one dedicated employee. I’d rather have to carry my trash and let the park use that money elsewhere.
For what it’s worth, I do agree it’s probably “gentrification” in the sense that the concept of carry in/carry out is more prevalent in middle class communities, mostly because they are more likely to engage in hobbies where or go to places where it’s a more prevalent part of the culture. I’m not sure non-middle class people have the same experiences/lifestyle that lead to thinking this makes sense to do.
Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 week ago
Everyone praises them? The only times Ive heard (from westerners visiting/moving there) is that it is very annoying that there is never anywhere to throw away their trash
MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 1 week ago
Different experiences then, because most people I’ve spoken to about it there and back home have talked about how clean it was despite that and commended the society for being so responsible with their waste.
Jimbabwe@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I came here to comment on Japan, haha. Almost everywhere you go, no trashcans and no trash! Their society is like a hive mind in a lot of ways, though. I’m not sure it’ll work with Rugged American Individualism®
insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 1 week ago
I looked it up and they seem to still have them in train stations plus in areas where trash/recyclables is expected to be generated (convenience stores, vending machines, parks) so it seems like a bit of a stretch (also the reason for less trash cans also being a 1995 sarin gas attack).
Even just the train station bit seems like an unfair comparison for places without any sort of public transportation (where people walked/biked from home). Yeah, I can see people being more likely to hold their trash if passing receptacles is part of their planned route.
th3dogcow@lemmy.world 1 week ago
No trash cans in the parks around here. Train stations tend to only have trash cans on the platforms, not inside the station (just my experience, not definitive). You just learn to carry your trash with you until you find somewhere to dispose of it. I don’t see the big deal. If you do buy something from a street vendor say in a park or at a festival, they will provide a way to dispose of it.