For who, subs? Even Christians don’t follow a single word that guy said.
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Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 month ago
True. Jesus is a good role model.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 1 month ago
deadcatbounce@reddthat.com 1 month ago
Can’t downside because I might write hurty words. That’s literal violence.
Flamekebab@piefed.social 1 month ago
Shame he's been co-opted by cultists.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 month ago
Doesn’t mean you can’t follow Him
Flamekebab@piefed.social 1 month ago
You can use the swastika as a symbol for luck if you'd like, Western society is not going to see it that way. Christianity has a hell of a lot to answer for and I couldn't in good conscience recommend anyone, adult or child, treat its fan-fiction patchwork quilt of a source book as a basis for modern living. Even the language of it makes my skin crawl - "follow"? Ew. No, build your own moral code, don't just take one off the shelf.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 month ago
build your own moral code
By that logic, we should get rid of global human rights and international courts. Also stop criticising people who have a different moral code. Maybe we should stop enforcing the law in general.
blackn1ght@feddit.uk 1 month ago
Someone who’s alive and real would be a good start.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 month ago
Jesus is real, and that’s a historical fact. Jesus is still alive, His resurrection and ascension was witnessed.
But that’s besides the point; who else who is “alive and real” would you suggest is a better rolemodel? Even if Jesus was fictional, He’s still a pretty good role model by what’s written about Him.
SleafordMod@feddit.uk 1 month ago
If Christianity only expected people to think that Jesus was a good role model then maybe I would be more willing to turn up at my local church. But Christianity expects a further belief: that Jesus is the son of God, which is a supernatural claim.
Personally I’m just not sure I believe the supernatural stuff.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 month ago
The major foundation of Christianity is a belief in God, basically. Without believing in God, there’s no point to being a Christian. It is kinda hard to argue though that Jesus as protrayed in the Bible is not a good role model.
Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 1 month ago
Dude’s been hiding for a while then. Probably out of embarrassment.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 month ago
The look on your face when He comes back will be hilarious
cman6@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Pretty sure Jesus (biblical Jesus) is dead
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 month ago
He rose again
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Jesus was nailed to a cross, tortured for days then imprisoned when he didn’t die from it right away. Who did that? Conservatives. Conservatives today believe Jesus’s messages of empathy, accepting others, and helping everyone are weakness that should be stamped out. Yet they all claim “country and God”. So if Jesus exists his message is clearly dead and just used to control masses and get them to fall in line. If you want to cherish the ideology of what Jesus was originally pushed as, that’s wonderful, but just as language evolves so does “Jesus.”. He’s now a curb stomp those you are unsure about, shoot that person that looks different than me, and if you ask me for help you should be deported to a slave labor camp.
Or maybe that’s just what the majority of Christian followers in the U.S believe.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 month ago
Jesus did die right away. His lungs were collapsed, there was no way a human could survive that.
You’re right about conservatives being wrong about Jesus. I do not care what americans have warped the Gospel into, it doesn’t change what Jesus did for me. I can’t just say “Sorry Jesus, I know you were tortured and died for me, but the people you warned about claim to follow you and do awful things, so I’m going to turn down what you did to me.” That won’t make sense.
Sure, ideology does change and maybe “Christianity” cannot be synonymous with what Jesus taught anymore. Doesn’t change who Jesus is.
whotookkarl@lemmy.world 1 month ago
He had some bangers but also some real shit takes like slaves obey your masters, faith healing, and substitutionary atonement. He’s been dead for ages and the multiple times he told his disciples the second coming would be within their lifetime never happened.
If you want better role models look at Fred Rogers Dolly Parton, Bob Ross, people that are generous and charitable without damning anyone who doesn’t agree with their religion or believe they are a divine messiah.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 month ago
Slaves obey your masters wasn’t Jesus. Also, what’s wrong with substitutionary atonement?
deadcatbounce@reddthat.com 1 month ago
Historical fact where?
There is absolutely no evidence of his existence anywhere. No writing about his existence. Nothing.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 month ago
That’s just flat out wrong.
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