His life’s work was attempting to get everyone to know that his initial work offered incorrect conclusions and that he had later disproved it. He’s actually a hero.
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Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 4 weeks ago
What about that bloke who started all this stuff about alpha and beta wolves.
Telodzrum@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 4 weeks ago
Yeah, respect to the dude
neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Wait, that isn’t true? I never heard about beta wolves, but i learned about alpha wolves in a public school, are we sure it’s wrong?
Are we even talking about the same thing?
Nawor3565@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
Yeah. It turns out that the “Alpha” and “Omega” wolves are just… The parents of the pack. It’s got nothing to do with the Alpha being macho or assertive or anything like how it’s been portrayed for decades.
The researcher who first published his faulty observations has been trying to correct the public consciousness for years, but it’s really hard to undo something that was taught so widely
Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 4 weeks ago
neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Okay yeah, that’s about what I remembered. The children leaving when they become adults.
I guess I just somehow mandela-effected the term “alpha” into there
But funny that wolves have social systems closer to humans than some ape species with their silverbacks.
Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
Oh yeah, we definitely form close knit family and community units with dispersed hierarchy instead of giving all the bananas and power to a small handful of apes who can then impose their will on everyone else…
MathiasTCK@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I sometimes wonder if dogs taught us civilization.
kameecoding@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Well he made bad research, then disproved it, but couldn’t bottle back all the incels who ran with that shit
QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Part of the irony being that even if it were true, there is no reason to make assumptions about human behavior and social structure based on other animals, especially… wild canines? Wtf? There’s a lot of different pack/grouping types throughout the animal kingdom—if anything it would make sense to compare humans to other apes, but at the end of the day it’s still a totally different species that also lacks the social complexity as well as culture and lifestyles humans are capable of because of our higher intelligence. We have some really fucking stupid cultural hang-ups
roguetrick@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Inside you there are two wolves, my friend. One is society and the other is society. We live in a society.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
inside you there are two wolves, they are crucial for keeping the deer population under control
captain_oni@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
More like:
“Inside of you, there are 2 apes:
One is a Chimpanzee, who wants to throw its shit at everything, and kill and dismembered anyone that has mildly inconvenienced you.
The other one is a Bonobo, who just wants to chill out, and maybe fuck to let all those frustrations out (and maybe kill and dismember the ape that’s hoarding all the food and resources for itself).”
AppleTea@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
being human is about communicating and learning new behaviors. Both of those take work and practice, so there’s selective pressure for a narrative that justifies not putting it in. If there hadn’t been the alpha/wolf thing then we’d just be having this conversation about some other silly story that served the same function.
Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 4 weeks ago
I think it fits.