Don’t care, I’d rather live under the neolib European governments any day than a Russian shithole. It’s not even a difficult choice. It’s not like there’s some leftist utopia as an alternative.
Comment on Germany right now
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 5 days agoNATO is a fascist organisation.
You Germs should know that since they incorporated plenty nazis in the organisation.
metaldream@sopuli.xyz 4 days ago
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Don’t care, I’d rather live under the neolib European governments any day than a fascist Russian shithole.
I’ve got some horrible news for you.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 4 days ago
The neolibs don’t murder gay people and don’t decriminalize violence against women as a state policy. LOL where do you get your news from?
That’s the fascist Banderites you support.
amnesty.org/…/ukraine-activists-at-womens-solidar…DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 days ago
I’ll take government failures to control their pigs over actually siccing the murder pigs on the protestors.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I’m sure you can post proof of the government murdering womens marches, let’s see it
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Isn’t Amnesty an evil neoliberal org? Or are you a weird kind of tankie that doesn’t really have issue with it?
Regardless of that, it’s just like saying “Palestine deserved it” because Hamas and radical Islam.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I’m not going to react, your nonsense from your response says enough.
metaldream@sopuli.xyz 4 days ago
Don’t try to deflect, you’re fine with Russia murdering gay people.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 4 days ago
You’re deflecting, prove your “Russia murdering gay people” lies
Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 days ago
Campists these days are so funny, because now they’re getting all their opinions from the US state department.
GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee 4 days ago
NATO is liberal and that comes with all of the problems of liberals but in what ways has it functioned as a fascist organisation?
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Miaou@jlai.lu 4 days ago
This is another example of Schrödinger’s NATO, where actions perpetrated by the USA is blamed on the entire organisation, yet NATO is a symbol of Western imperialism.
Which is it? If all of NATO but the USA want one thing, and the USA overthrows your government, is it NATO’s fault or rather the USA’s? Are tankies blaming Iraq on NATO too?
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 4 days ago
" if all of NATO but the USA want one thing"
What are you talking about.
NATO IS the USA, they decide and nobody else.
The vasals will pay for it, provide assistance and get to take care of the millions of refugees caused by it while the US plunders the poor victim of the day’s oil and resources.
If you don’t get that then it’s hopeless.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Without NATO, we’re going back into the age of territorial conquests and nationalist revenge campaigns. Russia and China aren’t the only countries where this crap is normalized (see Hungary - lot of my fellow Hungarians thinks Slovaks are just Hungarians forced to take up a Slavic language, and in reality they’re just a lost tribe of Magyars called “the Tóths”).
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 4 days ago
NATO is territorial conquest by the US.
Europe are just vasals.Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 days ago
Name one agressive expansion of territory by nato.
And no. The former occupied eastern europe countrys joining nato is not military expansion. They wanted to join and are still indipendent in everything they do
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 4 days ago
What do you consider 'expansion of territory '?
That is an outdated concept.
The US has used NATO to attack and control other countries without ‘expansion’. That would be to obvious colonialism. They “intervene” (mass murder and destroy the brow people countries) then install their puppet like in Afghanistan.
They use more sneaky regime change tactics in Europe.
Ukraine was a good example, with the Nuland-Pyatt call telling them who should be president. (And “fuck the EU” OC)
in Georgia they sure tried but failed.
They are ‘bodybags’ combined with NATO weapons as Soros said in '93 explaining how NATO could destroy Russia (so peaceful). And no, there is no context.
But if they have to they blatantly bomb cities and an embassy like Yugoslavia.
The US blew up our Nordstream pipeline forcing us to buy their expensive gas and destroying our economy.
Not one peep from our bootlicking EU leaders.
That sure sounds like we’re independent.
And now the poodles complain they don’t get respect? LOL
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Had to protect the surplus profits of Capitalism at all costs. A century of wealth needed to be consolidated in the hands of the ubermensch. You know, Mohammed Bin Salmen and Amancio Ortega and Elon Musk.
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 days ago
So did the warsaw packt. Your point?
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 4 days ago
While the Warhaw pact did have their own limited project paperclip it is a fact it was the west that fully incorporated the nazis into their regime.
The point being they both were anti-communist.
The west also helped escape 1000’s of the worst SS nazi warcriminals (ukranians) and relocated them to Canada.
What was their use?
There is zero equivalence and you can’t find more than some cherrypicked examples.
To the Russians some could be used but were their enemies, unlike the west where they had plenty of fascist sympathisers in Europe or N America.
…substack.com/…/ratlines-nato-and-the-fourth-reic…“and russia today even has them lead armys again”
LOL is that your claim? Let me say it for you, Ill cherrypick Dimitry Utkin for you bcs because i know where you are going with your argument. A guy from a private militia who is in no way part of the Russian army, as events later made abundantly clear.
You can find individual nazis in almost every country.
Guess who those Russian nazis are fighting for?
telegraph.co.uk/…/russian-neo-nazi-hooligan-who-l…Ukraine has multible openly fascist batalions like Azov, Sich, Tornado and plenty more.
Where WW2 warcriminals are honored, etc…And let’s not forget how the west now whitewashes the horrible Navalny, who organised the Russian marches before they were forbidden, a racist making videos of him shooting muslims that he called cockroaches.
A disgusting criminal sold by the west as some brave hero fighting for democracy.
As riculous as saying Azov are totally not nazis anymore bcs they changed their logo.
If only Hitler would’ve done something to his swastika, he could’ve been a brave anti-commie fighter hero.You haven’t got a leg to stand on.
remon@ani.social 5 days ago
Ok Tankie.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 5 days ago
shouldn’t you be beating up anti-genocide protesters while doing the Musk salute?
lugal@sopuli.xyz 5 days ago
A tankie on .world? Funny
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 5 days ago
We’re having all the fun ridiculing all the fash and the lib enablers.