They’ll ultimately just have to cut off the US Internet from the rest of the world, right? As long as we can access other countries with more freedom, we can enjoy that level of freedom on the Internet. Or am I not understanding how the Internet works (entirely possible)?
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SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 4 weeks agoI am really curious how long it will take them to ban VPNs.
iowagneiss@midwest.social 4 weeks ago
redhorsejacket@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
If it makes you feel any better, you can rest assured that Capitol Hill doesn’t know how the Internet works either.
imvii@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
" And again, the Internet is not something that you just dump something on. It’s not a big truck. It’s a series of tubes. And if you don’t understand, those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and it’s going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material." - Alaskan Senator Ted Stevens
deathbird@mander.xyz 4 weeks ago
To be fair, at this late date, the tubes analogy isn’t that bad. I forget what point he was trying to make though.
Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 4 weeks ago
I mean as far as metaphors go, it’s really not that bad. It’s visual and immediately understandable, and at least connected to the underlying thing it’s describing (network traffic really does flow down a series of wries/cables that are functionally “tubes” of electrons or photons). Hell, people have been likening an internet connection to a “pipe” since at least the 90s (it was already a thing when I first got internet access in '95).
Sure the guy who said it was a dickbag, but I can think of a dozen worse analogies offhand.
unphazed@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
They’ll most likely try to pull off a setup similar to China.
the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
What you’re not understanding is that Florida is just a single state out of 50
RamenJunkie@midwest.social 4 weeks ago
The people pushing these laws are hoping it will have the “California Effect.”
Like when California says “Cars need to meet X emissions standards” so far makers just make cars everywhere meet those standards.
They are hoping that by making age verification a thing in a few states, it will become a thing everywhere.
This fails to realize that one, it’s easy to geofence a state online (VPNs being anwork around). And Two, companies generally comply with California laws because, on the whole, California passes mostly positive limitations. It only makes the cars and world better if they all meet the better emissions standards. Blocking porn like this, is a net negative.
Also, on the subject of kids accessing porn. They are going to do it anyway, anyone thinking otherwise is oblivious to the world, and two, it’s not up to the state to nanny this shit, it’s up to the parents.
the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
I agree with all of that. What I don’t agree with is blaming the entirety of the US for this policy. This is one dumbass state, doing a dumbass thing. The UK passed a similar law and I’d be just as wrong if I shit talked the rest of Europe for it.
unphazed@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
When it comes to emissions laws, car co usually build a range just for California. It’s not hard to slate a few days just for a different exhaust.
Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 4 weeks ago
And Two, companies generally comply with California laws because, on the whole, California passes mostly positive limitations.
No, companies generally comply with California laws because California is a massive market. Companies don’t, on the whole, operate on what is mostly positive for society according to a specific flavor of progressive.
Companies operate on what is most profitable, and selling to California is usually good for profits, while running a separate production line just for California usually isn’t worth it. So if the regulations aren’t too expensive to meet, they’ll just switch the whole production over to meet California law because that minimizes costs and maximizes sales. The same kind of thing also happens with Texas, for much the same reason - especially with textbooks.
PanArab@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Some US states already have more restrictive abortion laws than Saudi Arabia, so why not Internet laws too.
Rusty@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
It’s impossible to ban all VPNs. And even if they somehow do it, you can get a VPS(virtual private server) from one of the cloud providers (AWS, GCP, Azure etc.) and host your own vpn service (OpenVPN, Algo, Vultr). You don’t need to know a lot about it, there are step-by-step guides for it.
x00z@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Just block every AS that belongs to a hoster.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Yup, I have my own VPS hosted in Oregon, so if worst comes to worst, I can route my traffic through there.
liquidthex@reddthat.com 4 weeks ago
Companies have been compiling lists of which IP blocks are consumer Internet and which are cloud services. That’s why some VPNs are now selling home internet IP VPNs.