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joyjoy@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• Taleya@aussie.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Or if your neighbours crops have germinated in your lands

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  • IMongoose@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I don’t think they’ve successfully sued anyone for that. The few cases I saw last time I looked people were intentionally germinating or saving/selling seeds.

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    • ADKSilence@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      So uhh... hypothetically if one were to live next to a cornfield and acquire some seeds from said field

      Asking for a friend of course.

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      • inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        You wouldn’t download a corn would you?

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      • The_v@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Saving seed for the farms own use is expressly allowed under plant variety protection and patent laws in the U.S.

        This is why the seed companies created contracts that they require all growers to sign before being allowed to purchase GMO crops. The prohibition from saving seed is from the signed agreement not from the patent or PVP.

        Say if you got grain from the farmer for your bird feeder. Then if you happen to use the grain as seed to plant some for next year’s bird feeder — completely legal. You are not bound by the agreement between the farmer/seed company. Unless you try to sell the grain/seed to another person. Then you are in violation of the seed companies patent in the U.S.

        Remember that corn shows a severe amount of inbreeding depression. So the F2 plant will not produce as much as the farmers F1 did the year before.

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      • ryathal@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        It would constitute theft.

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• culpritus@hexbear.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  or if/when your neighbors pollen blows onto your crops and you grow from those seeds, and then they sue you for being a pirate of their IP

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• Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  No they won’t.

  They will sue you if you take your neighbors pesticide resistant seeds, sow them, douse them in pesticide so only the resistant ones survive, and sow your entire field with them.

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  • Nollij@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yes, they will.

    You’re taking the approach of an independent farmer that didn’t sign a contract with Monsanto. What you said mostly aligns with that scenario.

    For the farmer that did sign a contract with Monsanto, that is a standard and required clause, and they do enforce it.

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  • joyjoy@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Classic piracy. The original product is still there; you’re just making a copy.

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    • Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I mean, I totally agree with all forms of breaking IP law on ethical grounds. But I also recognise that it’s still breaking the law right now.

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      • Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        You getting downvoted for stating what’s factually correct while still disagreeing with it is classic shooting the messenger.

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      • dragonfucker@lemmy.nz ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Why “but”? Why are those two statements viewed as contradicting each other in tone?

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    • AltheaHunter@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Isn’t classic piracy boarding ships and taking all their shit at gunpoint?

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  • Atlas_@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    You should be allowed to do that.

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    • Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I agree, but you aren’t. I think all IP law is stupid, but until i’m president of the universe, it’s still the law.

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• dragonfucker@lemmy.nz ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Why invent technology to control people when you can just use the law?

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