precisely what those left wing voters explicitly and repeatedly warned the centrist dems they would do
So, like, they told us they were going to be stupid?
What do you do with people straight up telling you they’re going to be stupid?
Exactly. In my experience it works like this:
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Blue maga folks make a post bitching again about left-wing voters staying home - precisely what those left wing voters explicitly and repeatedly warned the centrist dems they would do if Biden didn’t stop weapons shipments to Israel.
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In that post, blue maga folks will say, “well, for some reason all the leftists who spoke against Biden have mysteriously disappeared. We never hear from them again. I guess they were all just Russian plants.”
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In the comments, they receive numerous comments from leftists who didn’t vote for Kalama, or in my case, someone who did vote for Kamala, but still fully understands why people didn’t vote for her.
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Blue maga downvotes the Hell out of the leftist post instead of engaging in good faith. They downvote until their posts cannot be seen anymore.
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Blue maga goes on pretending that the anti-genocide leftists have all just mysteriously disappeared.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Objection@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
Yes, we did.
Let’s play a game. You and me have to agree on how to split $100, but if we don’t come to agreement, nobody gets anything. If I were a smart, rational person, then even if you were only willing to give me $1, I should accept, because it’s better than $0. But I’m not a smart, rational person, I’m stupid, I’m irrational, I’m spiteful and vindictive, oogy boogy, watch out! I’m gonna choose a number as my minimum, and if you offer me less than that, I’ll take my ball and go home. And if you know that, I bet you offer me more than $1 next time.
Obviously, the “game theory rational” play of accepting any deal even if it’s $1 isn’t actually smart or reasonable, nor is it unreasonable to set and enforce a minimum standard for cooperation. We can argue over where that line should be drawn, but a line should be drawn somewhere, and I’m pretty damn sure genocide is crossing it.
Of course, it’s impossible to get you lot to see actual reason or understand how negotiation works, but failing that, I’d prefer that you see us as “stupid” or “unreasonable.” Because negotiating with a robot is incredibly easy, you hardly have to give them anything, just make it .000001% better than the alternative. But if you can convince the other side you’re “unreasonable,” then they’ll always be second-guessing “Did we give them enough?” which is a much stronger position. Call us “stupid” as much as you like, it only gives us a stronger negotiating position 💅
hark@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Don’t forget: 4.5. Leftists get moderated for saying Biden supported genocide (with the reason given for the moderation being “misinformation”) and receive a ban.
Lightor@lemmy.world 3 days ago
First we had the victim complex, now we introduce the pre-victim complex, now with more self pity!
hark@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Lightor@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Cool
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 days ago
GeNoCiDe
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
blue maga
Thanks for putting this so early in the comment so I know to stop reading!
WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Thanks for outing yourself as blue maga.
spacesatan@leminal.space 3 days ago
And of course during the next primary: ‘we have to rally around 99% hitler to stand a chance against 100% hitler, 0% hitler is just too radical to win the general election.’
Lumiluz@slrpnk.net 4 days ago
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Leftists don’t let Nazis get into power, even if it means dealing with corporatists some more years.
You’re not a leftist. You did nothing to avoid the farthest of the right-wing from gaining possibly absolute power. You did nothing to keep things leftward, or even center right - you just allowed the fascists to take over without a struggle.
You’re not the resistance, you’re not a helper, you’re not leftist; you’re nothing.
IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
Fun fact: the KPD refuses to work with the SPD becauae they view the SPD as “social fascists”. Since the KPD and NSDAP combined is a majority, that means the parties had to work with either one of the two to form a governement. Eventually a coalition government was formed with the NSDAP with hitler as chancellor, and the rest is history.
spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 days ago
Oh wow, so it really is just a speedrun 1920s/30s Germany.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Yes, it’s starting to actually look like that.
Objection@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
Fun fact: the SPD refused to work with the KPD and instead supported the “moderate” right which only exacerbated the decline, and it was the candidate they endorsed who appointed Hitler chancellor and allowed him to seize power.