How about we don’t encourage a rapist instead?
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scytale@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Everyone needs to see Rammstein live at least once in their lives.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
Huby@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Innocent until proven guilty? If I said you raped me, are you a rapist now?
The investigation was dropped because of lack of evidence.
Koike@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
Man, I’ve work as a roadie on their show, there was maybe 20 girls, bearly 18, hand picked by some security dude right in front of the stage, the whole group was moved to backstage as soon as the show ended, they’re famous for their post show orgies, it’s fucking gross, some were really young and he’s 60… I loved Rammstein, but now it feels wrong. Maybe he hasn’t been convicted due to lack of evidence (also remember he has money and isn’t your regular joe), but defending a man fucking girls when he could be their grand pa is also fucking gross.
ArcticLynx@feddit.de 2 years ago
the age of the women really isn’t the problem here. if a woman is 18+ she can fuck whoever she wants, even men thrice her age. even girls between 16 and 18 are legally allowed to have sex with much older men, as long as they aren’t compensated for it.
the problem here is rather the lack of consent. many women report being sexually assaulted or even drugged and raped.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
What kind of evidence could the victims bring to court years later exactly? You think they come out to become famous or something?
The fact that similar accusations aren’t taken seriously is exactly what led to the metoo movement.
Johanno@feddit.de 2 years ago
The court actively tried to contact the victims over several countries or anybody who could testify. Except for one witness no one showed up and the one witness only said she doesn’t know what happened.
So maybe there is a very safe way to get women to forget everything that happens or he is not guilty.
Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 years ago
We aren’t rapist apologists. But the investigation was dropped due to a lack of evidence. What else can people do to proof their innocence to people like you?
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
Right, because it’s easy to prove you’ve been raped years ago 👍
wetnoodle@sopuli.xyz 2 years ago
People in here be acting like getting roofied enhances your memory, they don’t remember shit because they were drugged
justabigemptyhole@lemmy.world 2 years ago
If I stream Feuer Frei um keinen Preis, is that supporting rape?
disconnectikacio@lemmy.world 2 years ago
No, the majority here are who fed up with fake rape charges of #metoo…
Katrisia@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Apparently, Lemmy doesn’t believe the man who writes misogynistic lyrics can be sexist. It’s the same all over the internet. Quoting Reddit users:
a) Rammstein’s lyrics can be rather extreme, as they often include rape, incest, death, sex tourism, necrophilia, etc etc. But are they sexist? No I don’t think so.
b) A lot of their songs are out of someone’s perspective. Like Ausländer can be perceived as a sexist song written from a perspective a dude (Till lol) shagging his way around the world and seducing local populace with his foreign allure and hilariously low effort “knowledge of the local language”. […] On the other hand what the band actually intended to do is criticize colonialism.
One does not need to believe the sexual allegations to see that, still, something’s fishy, especially with the lead singer. The lyrics, the orgies, etc. For years, I have disliked songs and interviews because of this, but it all gets the “It’s satire” or “It’s symbolism” pass.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
It’s the equivalent of people saying something stupid, arguing about it and when proven wrong they go “I was just acting retarded, you’re the one who’s dumb for believing it!”
CheeseToastie@lemmy.world 2 years ago
At least before they transition away from fossil fuels
stainless@feddit.de 2 years ago
mounts tesla coils to arms
LetterboxPancake@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
I couldn’t find anything from Rammstein, but take this as an example and imagine the rest
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AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 years ago
How do they intend to do that? Their pyrotechnics are second to none.
WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Absolutely! I’ll never forget their show. It’s wild.
hOrni@lemmy.world 2 years ago
I’ve seen them twice, so I can average out one person who hasn’t seen them.
Afghaniscran@feddit.uk 2 years ago
I had tickets and then COVID happened, then Brexit happened and they aren’t coming to the UK anymore. :(
hOrni@lemmy.world 2 years ago
I feel ya. Lost my probably only chances to see Aerosmith and Rege Against The Machine because of covid.
JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Four times ova here
Thteven@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Hands down the best live show I’ve ever been to.
lemmylommy@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Just don’t get too close to Till if you are a woman.
hOrni@lemmy.world 2 years ago
What do You mean? Women are less fireproof than men?
Johanno@feddit.de 2 years ago
Well you should more be drug and rape proof
orrk@lemmy.world 2 years ago
generally take all accusations with a grain of salt, I’m not saying that the lady is a liar, but often these things just turn into massive rumor mills, and as far as I know from people who have worked with the band in the past, the band themselves generally get wasted on anything they get their hands on, but that’s not uncommon in the punk/metal scene.
teichflamme@lemm.ee 2 years ago
All charges were dropped
hOrni@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Cosbyproof? Cosbyfobic? Cosbyrepellant? I’m sure there is a word for that.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 years ago
Allegedly
Muetzenman@feddit.de 2 years ago
Nope. That’s pretty save to say. Just the leagal chareges are dropped. It is proven that the castings happend and sex happend. How much the women knew what they are casted for may differ from each instance and how much they felt presured.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 years ago
Seems like two conflicting statements.