Will the Democrats gerrymander every state they have control over?

Submitted ⁨⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨VioletTea@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨workreform@lemmy.world⁩

Should the Democrats gerrymander ever state they have a trifecta in? Why should they put themselves at a disadvantage in the 2028 presidential elections?

Democrats now can remove all of the gerrymandering in the states they currently have control over. The districts would be redrawn by the state legislature to be more fair. They would remove all the GOP gerrymanders.

But if Trump and Republicans opposes the democrats legislation the democrats will heavily gerrymander all the states they currently have control over and change the retirement age of the state supreme courts.

So if Trump vetoes legislation Democrats heavily gerrymander one state. If he vetoes more legislation they gerrymander another state. If he vetoes more legislation they change the retirement age and appoint their own justices.

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NoLemurs@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
No one should gerrymander.

I think there would be a lot of support for passing laws requiring specific non-partisan or bi-partisan redistricting though. There are a bunch of states with systems in place like independent commissions that can prevent the worst abuses. I think preventing the worst abuses can only really help the Democrats.

Now, what we could and should ask for is for every democractic legislature to pass the National Popular Vote Interstate. I’m pretty sure we have enough states now to make this happen.

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- DomeGuy@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Yes. Dem-conteoled states should pass National popular vote. And then they should gerrymander to the most extreme maps they can.
  
  The Dems in Congress can draft a federal law banning gerrymandering nationwide, and the Republicans can either join in or die as a party.
  
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- givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  
  No one should gerrymander.
  
  Republicans gerry meandering is literally why we have such a huge House majority tho…
  
  The way it works is you try to sink all your opponents in one district, and keep a thin margin everywhere else. I said at the time it would backfire, and it did.
  
  Indiana was one of the few states “that stopped it”, but the thing is if it wasn’t stopped Republicans would have won a single seat in fucking Indiana.
  
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aaa999@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
the very obvious thing is

re-pass the voting rights act (banning gerrymandering) with a non veto proof majority

veto

ok if you say so, get em boys

re-pass the voting rights act

incentive to maybe not veto
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farmgineer@nord.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
They should make it fully illegal, require non-partisan committees to oversee districts, and redistrict everything based upon that. I think the that needs to be done at the state level in every state, so it does nothing for states like Ohio that are a clusterfuck.

We should also axe the electoral college, move to proportional representation, STAR (or similar) voting, expand the house, and abolish the senate, IMO.

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Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I do think the GOP and its entire power based needs to be dismantled and investigated for treason, until then there is no law or justice in this country.

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isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
They should use the fact that they now have the ability to gerrymander even harder as leverage to pass a constitutional amendment to ban gerrymandering.

A constitutional amendment can only pass if both sides have an incentive to do so. Democrats are generally in favor of banning gerrymandering just out of principle. Republicans’ only principal is self-interest. Now though it would actually be in Republicans’ best interest to ban it.

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Turret3857@infosec.pub ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Should they- yes

Will they- look at Virginia. they did everything above board with a vote and didnt do shit.

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chewypoops@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
The people saying “no” care about process more than defeating fascism.

Republicans handed us the tools to destroy them forever. We would be stupid not to use them.

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tate@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Gerrymandering is not relevant to presidential elections.

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- isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Presidential elections are not relevant to this conversation.
  
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  - AlmightyDoorman@kbin.earth ⁨46⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
    Presidential election are literally in the bottom text of OP.
    
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ruuster13@lemmy.zip ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Gerrymandering is required in order to give minority groups representation. Dems do it to help these groups and Republicans point at that and claim the Dems did it first. So you’ve got a bigger problem to solve first.

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- DomeGuy@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  
  Gerrymandering is required in order to give minority groups representation.
  
  The 2028 midterm election should refute that idea more thoroughly than the 1865 surrender refuted the idea that US states were sovereigns who could secede.
  
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onlyhalfminotaur@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I’m not sure any state legislatures that have redistricting power changed enough with this election to give Dems any new power. They broke GOP super majorities in Ohio and NC but that’s not enough to do anything. Were there any others?

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- isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  They control the Texas House and governorship. At the very least, it would be very easy to force a neutral gerrymander through. They have an enormous mandate and could make removal of the conservative gerrymander a condition for passing any legislation.
  
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Bwaz@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
hey, GOP set the precedent for irregular redrawing of districts in off year. The Democrats would be fools not to do it too now.

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Secret_Svdmozart@fedinsfw.app ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
whichever party is in power always do so.

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