"Mom, we can just go back to burning wood"

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• tomi000@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Life hack: solar panels. 2 panels for 250€ literally cut our electricity consumption from the grid in half. Bought them in April and they almost paid for themselves by now.

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• BCsven@lemmy.ca ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Ha. I lived in Ontario back when they had a Provincial Hydro company, the bill was fine. For some reason the government sold it to a private company and that company bought the “debt” that the Ontario Hydro had. The private company added a debt retirement fee to our bills. Which was a huge portion of our bill.

  To me if you are a private company and you buy a failing business you’d roll fees into the electrical rate to gather money from those using it the most, not just a fee onto anybody, even the smallest user.

  Our Water bill was just as stupid, you got charged for amount used, then a sewer reprocessing fee on the same amount. So double billing. I argued if I water my grass or fill a pool then that water doesn’t reach the sewer for reprocessing.

  Those two bills were the final straws in me deciding to move to BC. I was already considering the move and weighing options, but saving about $200 a month on utilities was a tipping factor.

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  • StabbingSky@lemmy.zip ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Here you can get a second meter installed for irrigation so you don’t have to pay for the sewage portion.

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    • BCsven@lemmy.ca ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Nice

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• Barley_Man@sopuli.xyz ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I did go back to burning wood. Per watt of heat it’s roughly ⅓ of the price where I live and with the specific set up I have. However the largest drawback of wood is that it entails a lot of manual work. First I have to spend a dozen hours carrying wood into the basement during autumn. Then during winter I have to go down 2-3 times a day to feed the furnace. However to me it’s worth it. It’s a comfy ritual that saves 5-20 euros every single day during winter depending on what the electricity price is that day.

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  • Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Firewood warms you three times!

    1. When you cut/split it
    2. When you move it
    3. When you burn it.

    It’s very efficient that way

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    • jaybone@lemmy.zip ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      If you set yourself on fire, it can keep you warm for the rest of your life.

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    • rnduser314@lemmy.zip ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      4. When it emits CO2! 😂 😥

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• M137@lemmy.today ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Meanwhile in actual 1st countries with good green electricity generation infrastructure, good electricity suppliers and a better system for landlords (mostly a few big companies who actually compete for tenant satisfaction):

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• Malica@lemmy.zip ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Or burn data centers

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• HeyJoe@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I moved into an all electric house over 10 years ago and it was awful back then with it being avg $500 a month. This past year ive been paying $1100 a month. I do not have a huge place and outside of a few pcs and tvs i really dont use much so it pisses me off. To broke to change or put solar up. We just decided to move so ill be thrilled when this shitshow is not my problem anymore.

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  • HugeNerd@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Are you running a fusion reactor?

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  • HerbGrower@slrpnk.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    How are you spending more in a month than I do in a year? Also fully electric, had the gas disconnected before I moved in. Is your rate like $5/kWh or something?

    Rate here is around £0.24/kWh, spending £89/month currently. It would probably be less if I didn’t like long warm showers.

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  • LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    How much is your electricity?? $1 a Kwh??

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    • HeyJoe@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Its a payment plan since i cant afford the winter months peak when I have to use electric heating. Its also an older house and needs some real improvements to insulation and new windows. I also wish i could upgrade the electric heating since i do believe even that have better options as well. All things I could never get to sadly, but now that were selling I will be really happy not having to think about all of that ever again. Ive been keeping track and in summer it’s actually $300. Winter is brutal sadly.

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  • tomi000@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If this is seroiously your current situation, the “cant afford solar” part does not make sense. If you pay 500$ a month for electricity, buying a solar panel for roughly 100$ should be easy. It will cut your electricity for the next month by 30-50$ and save you money after 3.

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    • Barley_Man@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      If his winter heating need is that large he may live in an area where solar does not produce that much electricity during winter. I myself live in an area that has 0 (yes zero) sunlight for one winter month because of the polar night and just 1-4 hours of very low intensity sunlight for the rest of the 5 month long winter. In summer when we have midnight sun, literally 24 hour sunlight, the electricity is almost free so whatever the solar panel produces then is near useless. Also you simply don’t use that much in that season. For me at least it’s not really a worthwhile investment.

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• Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Why not Propane? www.sciencedirect.com/…/S0360544225008977

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  • JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If you actually understand that abstract, would you mind parsing it down to highschool graduate with scientific interests level for us?

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    • Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s evaluating the heating properties of propane and showing the results of an ai model they put to work to evaluate the efficacy of propane in heat pumps. The outcome was that oil tends clogs in propane heated oil based heat pumps that lack an oil separation unit and that work needs to be done to prevent that from happening in systems where refrigerants and oil are mixed/used in the same system.

      The main reason i posted it was because it’s hard to find anything defending propane as efficient and a next generation refrigerant. I also wanted to just point out the GWP of propane which is like 3. Though I just googles that and it says the updated data based on European data, it’s 0.02 over 100 years which is next to nothing compared to natural gas and wood burning.

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