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Do the people who say "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger" ever consider Heroin?

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Patnou@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • bloogoose@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    People who unironically use that phrase are simpletons.

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  • serpineslair@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I know technically you’re right. But if you managed to come out the other end, as in, kick the addiction… Mentally the experience would probably toughen you up.

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    • 0xKesh@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I know one person that managed to kick heroin about 10 years ago now. They are one of the most head strong people I know now, with an enormous amount of drive to continuously improve their own life (they have since started a family, got a career, and just purchased a home recently).

      In their case, I would definitely say ‘what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger’ holds true

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  • VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I’ve always gone with “whatever doesn’t kill you makes you weaker and easier for the next thing to kill”

    Like forget heroin, have they heard of polio?

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    • Stern@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      After my double arm amputation I developed incredibly strong telekinetic powers to compensate… ymmv ofc

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  • floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    You either die from it or find the strength to overcome the addiction? Staying clean from heroin does require a lot of it

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  • Batmancer@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I have done heroin and I always thought that saying was dumb. Later I’d tell the kids I mentored in a drugs and alcohol program that what doesn’t kill you will likely leave you scarred, weaker, and/or in pain for the rest of your life.

    I’m a big fan of try anything once though, probably how I got addicted to drugs in the first place. Not like ANYTHING, but like anything fun that isn’t fatal most of the time.

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  • banause@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    You don’t get the saying. If you do heroin it kills you. Like even literally.

    If you can overcome the addiction, you will eventually come out stronger.

    It’s not meant to be applied on an actionable scale, but rather on a strategic one. Kind of like “learn from your failures.”

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    • Batmancer@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Addiction can often lead to trauma, poverty, unwanted children, all sorts of degradation, so even if someone can overcome the obstacle of stopping that won’t necessarily make them stronger. They may even be weaker than they’ve ever been from the stress on their body and psyche.

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      • banause@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        It’s just a light hearted saying not a scientific statement. Chill.

        The early bird also doesn’t always catch the worm.

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  • TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Dude. Can you fight dragons without heroin? I think not.

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  • Ariselas@piefed.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It worked for RFK Jr

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  • Widdershins@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I know it is patently untrue. My uncle died doing steroids.

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    • banause@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      “doesn’t”

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  • Malyca@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Either it kills them eventually or they find the strength to overcome it. Still fits.

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  • spicehoarder@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I assume those who do heroin do consider this, so yes.

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  • cRazi_man@europe.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    How about losing an arm… Or both? Can’t see that making anyone stronger.

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    • Untamed_Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      In one way ofc. But on another way you have to make yourself stronger if you want to keep surviving after that.

      I don’t necesarilly mean physically.

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  • Nemo@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Heroin kills you, though.

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  • deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s what the powerful say to the weak to convince them their suffering is somehow good for them.

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  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    i thought heroin makes you stronger temporarily. maybe an addict.

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  • zeppo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    How about Alzheimer’s?

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    • Untamed_Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      you can’t survive it tho-

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      • zeppo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        you can for a while

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    • Patnou@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      That’s a disease not a choice…I welcome the downvotes lmao

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      • zeppo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        In modern medicine, drug abuse is considered a medical issue, not a choice or personality flaw. It’s called substance abuse disorder.

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