Oh, when you look at miracles, they do heal a lot! Some of it is even scientifically proven IIRC. Human mind is a funny thing.
But in all cases, faith works on small scale, and quite often simply individual. So yeah…not even a start to science.
thoughts and prayers for science
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Demdaru@lemmy.world 1 day ago
_fryerDan@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
But in all cases, faith works on small scale
so you’re saying it’s not statistically significant then? makes sense, most farces aren’t
Demdaru@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I mean, true. But at worst, faith worsk as a placebo, forcing our minds and bodies to fight harder for some unkown reason. At best, there were unexplainable cases. May as well assume it’s faith until proven otherwise.
In all cases, statistically insignificant xD
cunnililgus@sopuli.xyz 18 hours ago
You know what, even though everyone is downvoting you, I sort of agree with you. Persons faith can help him get better, physically and mentally. Either through placebo or peace of mind. Thats the whole shtick with people not being afraid cause god got their back, or people turning their life around because of accepting faith into their life.
What’s unfortunate with religion is the tendency of other humans exploiting that faith to commit awful things.
Faith’s IMO definitely a double-edge sword and very subjective, which is it’s strength and weakness.
Demdaru@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Yeeeep. Faith is a tool, especially if said faith is based on good intentions. It can be used for good (peace of mind, hospitality, feeding the poor, supporting communities), but even if faith itself was infallibly good, community aeound it simply will never be. And people who need to take shelter in faith often are more easily manipulated, sadly.
Jimbabwe@lemmy.world 1 day ago
There’s no way to scientifically measure faith or miracles as you’re describing. Saying “miracles do heal a lot” is an absurdly meaningless statement.
On the other hand, there is some evidence that people don’t work as hard at their own recovery when they believe people are praying for them, so believing in mumbo jumbo can actually hurt you.
forbiddencherry@lemmy.today 18 hours ago
The placebo effect is scientific and real. It’s so well established that when they are testing medicines they test them against placebo and track the placebo healing rates, because the drug needs to statistically heal better than the placebo healed.
MissJinx@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
look, I’m not bothered by your faith as long as you (religious people) keep it to yourselfs. The issue is using this, which is YOUR belief, as excuse to deny science? as is happening around the world.
NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 16 hours ago
Please provide any example of a scientifically proven miracle. (Other than that one politician at the podium saying “If I’m wrong may Allah strike me down” and immediately dying of a heart attack)
FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Don’t breed.
DaGreenGobbo@feddit.uk 1 day ago
You’re only considering the diseases that God didn’t prevent from existing in the first place. You can’t expect him to stop all the potential diseases, can you?? He’s not Superman!
DarkCloud@lemmy.world 1 day ago
As per science, prayer (or anything “metaphysical” can’t be measured, as it has no physics or physical evidence)…
…so effects of prayer can’t be measured/known. I guess that means it’s theoretical, unprovable.
db2@lemmy.world 1 day ago
That which is presented without evidence can be dismissed the same way.
IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 19 hours ago
you do realize that we wouldn’t have invented vaccination and large scale vaccine production without Catholics, right?
NotEasyBeingGreen@slrpnk.net 18 hours ago
Virulation - using a small amount of a virus to infect people to hopefully gain resistance - came to Europe through India. I’m 99% sure it wasn’t Catholicism that was responsible.
FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
This is the local noisy catholic idiot
Don’t bother with them
IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 16 hours ago
Virulation may be a precursor, but it is miles away from modern vaccination.
Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 hours ago
Is that really right? That they were Catolics in a society of Catholics does not mean that the invention of vaccines would have happened only because they were Catholics
FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
This person is a rabid catholic, and idiot
I’ve made the mistake of trying to engage with them in good faith
It was a fool’s errand
FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Oh, it’s you again
How unfortunate.
Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 1 day ago
Idiots need prayer because they can’t comprehend science, simple as that.
stepan@lemmy.ca 22 hours ago
Some of the most prominent scientists were and still are religious
IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 19 hours ago
EVERYONE can comprehend “science”
its not CTHULU
Science is too BROAD to be referred to like this
StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works 22 hours ago
Didn’t prayer actually eradicate that dancing disease or whatever?
cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au 1 day ago
Prayer and the CIA, however, are gtrwat at spreading them and undermining these efforts.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 day ago
Well that's a fundamental misunderstanding of science if I've ever seen one.
StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’m too tired to be mad about this or the changes that will happen to remind people of how important science is…
But I can always see in my minds eye, some future leader saying. “There’s no way we could have known.”
And that keeps me at a simmer.