Nobody wants to work anymore...

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• Rhaedas@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  "Nobody wants to work anymore..." is always an incomplete sentence. "for these wages", "under these conditions", "for little gain", etc.

  No, they don't, and shouldn't have put up with it this long.

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  • birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Followed by the implicit “… and I should be exempt from this, I need a $200k wage with $1 million hourly bonuses.”

    Labour rights apply to everyone.

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  • psx_crab@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They put up with that condition because there’s no alternative at the time. Until gig work like uber and food delivery came along, which people realise paid more than those other dead end job does, so they flock to these jobs. Now the dead end job that pay minimum wages aren’t competitive enough, and can’t hire anyone, hence the saying.

    Not saying gig work is good in the long run, but to people who have literally no other choice, it’s a godsend, a chance to earn more for the effort and time they put in.

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    • Rhaedas@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You're right. "All experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed." People deal with shit while they can, rather than changing.

      But the phrase mentioned is an old one used against people who finally had enough for whatever reason, and always leaves off why they've had enough, and what gave them enough motive to change to something else. One could say that the increase of "nobody wants to work anymore" is a signal of a new wave of quiet rebellion.

      The lesson is that people shouldn't have to settle for things because they don't have a choice. In anything. Work, relationships, health, food.

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  • Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Nobody wants to be paid minimum wage standing on their feet for 8 straight hours with a 5 minute break while a bunch of over-entitled Karens yell at them because an expired coupon won’t work.

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    • Rhaedas@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      "But at least you have a job!"

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• BillyClark@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Work is exactly the place where I discovered that I don’t want to work anymore.

  Lots of people say that they want to work, but then, when they accumulate enough money to retire, not only do they stop working, but they throw a fucking party to celebrate the fact that they’re not working anymore.

  So anyways, if you throw a party when you stop doing something, and nobody asks, “Why are they throwing this party? It’s nonsensical,” then it’s all a big lie and everybody secretly knows it. They just don’t want to say it and stand out from their group.

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  • backalleycoyote@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is just my experience. I enjoy that the effort I have to give goes to doing something I find rewarding on a self-actualizing level. I live in a capitalist system, I have to make money to live in it. But the pay is secondary as long as I can meet my basic needs. It’s be cool if I could self-actualize in other areas of my life/desires without having to sacrifice that to take a “pay-cut” to do a job I love, and I’ll keep fighting for that, but this is the point in history I’m living. We realize the system prioritizes the idea that more time/effort investment now pays out in income early, then you can spend your waiting years doing whatever you want. It doesn’t acknowledge that no one knows if they’ll live long enough to get there, or what the economy will be if/when you do. I might live to 100, I might die tomorrow. I could try and find a job that would earn enough tomorrow to finance the idea I spend the last 40yrs of my life living without having to “work”. But I’d rather spend my days doing what I enjoy doing covering my basic needs until the day I die, whenever that comes, than both resenting what I’m doing and only doing it in the hope someday I never had to do it and lived carefree, knowing I could easily die without ever self-actualizing. Live the reality you want to live while making due with the reality you’re forced to endure, but don’t live shit for one that might never come no matter how hard you sacrifice your now for.

    The value of money and the future aren’t real, only the time you have moment to moment are; use it the best you can and hopefully your choices result in actual reward.

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• crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The sentiment that people don’t want to work anymore is correct, but not for the reasons they’re saying.

  Nobody wants to do to the work of developing and mentoring entry-level hires. Hence entry-level positions requiring 5 years of experience in a technology that’s only existed for 3.

  Nobody wants to do the work of making a productive work environment, instead saddling one person with the responsibility of three. And not paying them appropriately.

  Nobody wants to do the work of making a product people actually want to use before aggressively monetizing it.

  Nobody wants to do the work of researching a technology before milking it for every penny. See: AI.

  I could go on.

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  • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Very well said!

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• Allero@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Or, rather, “to exploit poor even harder than we already do”

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• Footer1998@crazypeople.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  nobody ever wanted to work, we work to make our lives better.

  almost no gen Z have any investment in the concept of work for the sake of work that some older generations seem to venerate

  maybe its because older generations feel like the society they live in is something they want to “give back” to, but for me, this society fucking sucks and every day i wish the crude oil price would go higher and higher so this sucker finally crashes and burns

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  • Osan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Working is not giving back to society when most of us work for corporations and millionaires who’s entire purpose is to exploit said society. This fact might have been less obvious than it’s now especially when young people don’t feel their work is respected or appreciated in this system anymore.

    It’s not that society inherently sucks but it has been plagued by systems of oppression and exploitation for so long that it needs emergency surgery.

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    • Footer1998@crazypeople.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      those systems of oppression and exploitation go back hundreds and maybe even thousands of years, at what point do you not recognize that it just sucks

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• pdxfed@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  All they’re asking is to work at or below the amount they’ve lobbied to let them pay you legally, which at the federal level hasn’t increased a cent since 2009.

  Just a matter of showing up to a job without being able to get medical care because the industry is twisted to not address and deny care if you’re lucky enough to pay exorbitant rates for “healthcare”.

  Simply show up for that job in a car that you can in no way afford with gas that you can’t afford after eating a breakfast you can’t afford.

  Also, for many who do want to enjoy this exploration and are working the Trump government is making it more difficult for them to stay and work by announcing last week more than one million workers will need to leave the US first if they want to stay and work permanently. www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgrpz4l1klgo

  Plebs are so lazy

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