[Technology Connections] Don't overthink electric car charging (we should be doing it differently) [52:12]

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• unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I was confused as to why this didnt show up in my RSS feed, but turns out i dont have Connextras in there

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  • FenrirIII@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I didn’t realize the channel difference until I posted, but still the same guy. I kind of love his Connextras videos more

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    • Akasazh@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s easy. If he doesn’t wear his jacket, it’s connextras

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• AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That video is well done and good at laying it all out. I wish I could get my brothers to watch it.

  The thing is, I came here as devils advocate, thinking he was going too strong on level one. But he did well.

  • I had a similar discussion with my older brother, where I tried to convince him level one was possible, especially short term, but that he’d be happier with more. He installed 50a level 2, after I explained it’s the same as an electric range circuit (that’s what I have. Almost always more than I need but nice to have)
  • no luck at all with my younger brother. He works for a legacy car manufacturer and is convinced EVs are not practical. They found it impossible to install chargers at a plant since it would need the power of a city …… since they assumed every spot needed a fast charger and that all would be in use all day

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  • Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I get the 2nd point is inaccurately assumed, but it’s a going point to possibly bring up just really just how much fossil fuel is being burned by the factory in travel alone.

    If you need the electricity of a whole city, then every day those cars are burning that much.

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    • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I even had my work as an example - we have 8 chargers, 30a level 2. That’s lower than many of us get at home

      …… but that’s the point where a better goal should be to just make up for energy used by the commute. The reality is most of us move cars at lunch time. 8 fairly low end chargers is sufficient to top off 16 cars in a standard workday.

      That factory didn’t need bigger chargers, and could easily halve that if you don’t expect people to share

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• Klordok@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I got my first EV about a month ago. I charge off a 120v 15a outlet at home and I’ve been fine. Yes, it would take 2 days to go from 0 to 100%, but that’s not necessary. It only takes a few hours to charge the 6% I average per day.

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• Hezaethos@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Technology Connections is great. The last video on renewables helped make my mom look into EVs and this one might convince my older brother since charging was a main concern of his

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• psx_crab@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  My older brother need to see this, but then he won’t even watch past 1min mark.

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  • sheogorath@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Pretty funny seeing two different comments regarding their older brothers. Do you guys have the same brother?

    screenshot of two comments

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    • psx_crab@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      We all have that brother that whine about limited range but they only ever drive 200km per month

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• movies@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  A great option for some that’s worth communicating. That’s how I charge mine. Only once or twice in the last couple of years has it given me anxiety—which turned out to be unfounded. Not a heavy driver though, I don’t plug it in every day, and my range is nearly 300 miles.

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• CoriolisSTORM88@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  We made it work for several months with our EV and a Level 1 charger cable ran out the back door before I could get the time to install the level 2 charger. For regular commuting around town, the wall plug would keep up. For longer trips, we would have had problems and had to have sought out level 3 chargers until we got the level 2 install finished. Level 2 charging at home was a game and cured range anxiety for us.

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• Lumisal@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Well, at least this video might convince my older brother, especially with current gas prices

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• kboos1@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Sure, if you want it to take a week to fully charge.

  120vac at max 15 or 20 amps is going to take forever to charge. That’s why most car chargers are 230vac and 60amps.

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  • paraplu@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    He addresses that. Most drivers will not be charging from empty, and overnight charging will be able to keep up. That’s with an estimated 40m/day or less.

    Your individual usage could be higher.

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    • Alexstarfire@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      40 meters is a bit low, no?

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  • artyom@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You should actually watch the video. There are a dozen counterarguments to this and Alec has taken the time to lay them out for you.

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  • Little_mouse@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Charging from 0 to 100% really shouldn’t be the goal here.

    Ideally you would be charging to about 80% for just daily use, and only going 100% if you are planning a longer trip.

    Unlike a gas car, you don’t want to wait until it gets to 0% before you start charging it. Just plug it in when you get home and it’ll recoup whatever you used that day.

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    • Scubus@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You dont want to do that in a gas car either. A lot of the impurities in the gas settle out to the bottom of the gas tank, if you run your vehicle low on gas its easier for that layer to be agitated and your engine takes those impurities instead.

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    • gramie@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      My wife’s electric car has been fine for us. It took about a month until we could get a level two charger installed at home. Until then, I had to drive her to a nearby town to leave her car for 6 hours to charge.

      However, our experience when we went on a road trip was less than pleasant. The first 300 km of our trip there were only two charging stations. We checked at the first one, but there was one car charging and another waiting, so we continued on. We arrived at our destination with about 50 km to spare.

      The next day we went to a level 3 charging station, but it was out of order. A nearby one had Tesla superchargers, but the other chargers only put out between 50 and 100 KV. It didn’t matter, because the company’s app refused to work for us.

      The next closest charging stations were closed, because it was Sunday.

      We managed to get to a station a little farther away, and it took about 90 minutes to charge the car.

      We don’t live near a large city, so when there are charging stations, there is often a line of vehicles waiting, which puts the time to charge into hours. Equally bad, we never know until we get there how much time it will take.

      We live in Canada, so in the winter a full charge drops from over 500 km to about 300. If we have to travel anywhere, we are going to have to rent a gasoline car.

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  • noxypaws@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    watch the video.

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  • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s not a normal occurrence. He does a good job of answer that several ways. Watch the video

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  • psx_crab@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I haven’t watched the video, but he did own an ev and do all these deepdive video for a living so when he said something it has more weight than a calculation on paper.

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