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Submitted ⁨⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨fossilesque@mander.xyz⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • OwOarchist@pawb.social ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The problem with Mr. White here is that he’s still internalizing capitalistic individualism.

    “Everyone should grow their own food and be self sufficient.” – Nope.

    “The local community should grow food for each other and be self sufficient.” – Yes.

    Food self-sufficiency is much more realistic on a community scale than on an individual scale. And it can help with all the problems listed here:

    • People who don’t have access to land – can share the land of others who do have access to land

    • People with health problems – can be assisted by the community and still help out where they can (maybe their health problems prevent them from effectively weeding or harvesting, but maybe they could still help with sorting/processing/preserving)

    • People who value food security – with a larger community growing more diverse crops, you’re less likely to have catastrophic crop failure

    • People who hate zucchini – again, with a larger community growing more diverse crops, there would be more options for what to eat

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    • Mavvik@lemmy.ca ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      What is the limit of a “community”? I live in a city where it is certainly not practical to grow the food needed to feed the city inside thr city limits. On thr other hand, in my province there is tons of high quality land that would be more than sufficient to grow enough food for the whole province, especially if the food system shifted to a vegetarian-focused one. Thats a lot bigger than my “community” but it is a lot more practical and arguably more sustainable.

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      • luciole@beehaw.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Personnally I’d argue that there is no hard limit to the size of a community and to the number of communities a single person belongs to. Neighborhoods can have community gardens and kitchens, hobby farmers can share their crops with family, etc. At the provincial level, I find supply management to be alright for cutting speculation out of the equation and insuring a livelihood to local professional farmers.

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  • thinkercharmercoderfarmer@slrpnk.net ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I don’t care for zucchini and I’m in full support of people being able to grow their own food. I’m not sure how the two are related.

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    • cattywampas@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Zucchini is easy to grow and yields a lot, so it’s very popular for people who have vegetable gardens. Probably 90 percent of people growing food in North America are growing tomatoes, zucchini, and/or herbs.

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      • thinkercharmercoderfarmer@slrpnk.net ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yeah, I know a bunch of people who grow zucchini and they frequently harvest more than they could possibly use. they literally can’t give it away sometimes. maybe that’s why people who don’t like zucchini don’t like gardeners? Because they don’t want the produce zucchini growers are constantly trying to offload? Bit of a thinker.

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      • Draconic_NEO@mander.xyz ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Potatoes are also pretty easy to grow. I think a lot of people grow them as well.

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      • Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I wish I could grow zucchini/squash. Iirc, there is some endemic soil fungus in the Texas/Gulf Coast are that kills them. That and snails/slugs… I have never gotten anything except flor de calabaza and then the plant dies.

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  • Omgboom@lemmy.zip ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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    It’s absolutely possible to grow food in an small space

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    • Tonava@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’d imagine “without land” was aimed more towards “can’t grow enough to be self-sufficient”. You can totally utilize even small places very well, but if you’re poor living in a tiny flat without much natural light it’s a pretty daunting task to grow enough anything to live off that. Just the electricity cost for the lamps might make it pretty hard depending where you live. I guess mushrooms instead of vegetables might work a bit better though

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  • harambe69@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I grow stuff that’s best from the garden vs a store. Tomatoes, spinach, beans, peppers, herbs, etc. All on my roof. Got dirt from when they dug up the foundation for a nearby house. Got fertilizer from leaf litter and mowed grass from the park. I grow enough of the stuff to not have to buy them.

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  • luciole@beehaw.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    less parkings more community gardens

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  • bennypr0fane@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Uhm, what? Another way too specific/obscure meme

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    • snoons@lemmy.ca ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s making fun of unrealistic suggestions people make regarding potential solutions to divesting from industrial agriculture.

      I am the purple one, as the land I have access too is whatever pots I can fit by my window which also doesn’t have direct light.

      People with health issues are incapable of gardening in some way so must rely on the industry.

      One would need to grow and preserve a lot of food to store away for winter and if a crop fails or the preserving technique didn’t work they’re fucked; thankfully one can just go down to the store… which is the main point of this meme.

      I think suchini

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      • OwOarchist@pawb.social ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        People with health issues are incapable of gardening in some way so must rely on the industry.

        Though, on the other hand, fresh-grown food from a garden (and a bit of moderate exercise) is likely to help with a lot of health issues…

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