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Jeff Kaplan is sick of hearing you demonize games you weren't going to play anyway: 'Shut the f**k up. No one cares. We don't need to hear that you weren't into it'

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Submitted ⁨⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨favoredponcho@lemmy.zip⁩ to ⁨gaming@beehaw.org⁩

https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/jeff-kaplan-is-sick-of-hearing-you-demonize-games-you-werent-going-to-play-anyway-shut-the-f-k-up-no-one-cares-we-dont-need-to-hear-that-you-werent-into-it/

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  • FreddiesLantern@leminal.space ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Tech industry always: give us all your data please, we need your data to know what you want and think. Just one more piece of data please?

    Tech industry after receiving free and voluntary data: pls stop ಠ_ಠ

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    • LukeZaz@beehaw.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Last I checked, Jeff Kaplan – a game designer – doesn’t really represent the tech industry? So this comment kinda comes off as an unhinged non-sequitur.

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      • FreddiesLantern@leminal.space ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Ok.

        Thanks for your free and voluntary data.

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  • Banzai51@midwest.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    First, stop demonizing customers you’ll never have.

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  • frank@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    For those of you who (like me) have no fucking clue what the ex Blizzard CEO is doing

    …steampowered.com/…/The_Legend_of_California/

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    • redsand@infosec.pub ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I look forward to him blaming others when it flops. What a loser, we all remember overwatch Jeff, retire.

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    • LukeZaz@beehaw.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Oh Lord, and he thinks it’s unreasonable for people to complain about this?

      Look, he’s not really wrong per se. The internet does run disproportionately on outrage, and plenty of people judge shit that they’ve got no right to be judging because they don’t actually spend time thinking about what makes good art. But another multiplayer open world survival game? Really?

      For all that internet jackasses love to shit on anything and everything, you really shouldn’t be surprised after giving them such an easy target, Jeff.

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      • Luxyr@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Some subset of people will be into this game. The rest of us can just ignore it. No skin off our backs.

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      • RamenJunkie@midwest.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Looks very pretty though. And is there currently a Western open world survival game?

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    • hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Not CEO. Kaplan was a VP at Blizz.

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    • calliope@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Thank you! I was like “who?”

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  • lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The name of his studio, “Kintsugiyama”, is too long. Can I clip the “sugiy”? It sounds better! :^) …okay, disregard the shitty joke.

    Serious now: Kaplan and Ford’s takes are fairly reasonable. Forums online (including Reddit… and Lemmy/Piefed, by the way) seem to trigger on people a natural instinct to fit in, as part of a group. This leads to the adoption of similar values and judgements, and in turn to direct praise and criticism towards the same things — even when you’re in no position to do it, because you didn’t experience it nor plan to. In practice this means yes, it’s harder to speak “I like it” when everyone else dislikes it.

    And people can get reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally loud with this shite.

    Also, I like the way they voiced this. It’s really hard to misconstrue it as “don’t criticise things”. Criticism is often healthy, sometimes even really harsh criticism; it’s just that sometimes it needs some experience to be even constructive, and that’s the case here.

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    • Goodeye8@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      On the one hand Kaplan is right, people should STFU instead of giving their opinion on something they don’t really care about in the first place. But on the other hand the masses don’t complain about good games so there’s also something the devs can do. I get that it comes across as “just make good games, duh” but it doesn’t take a lot of effort to see that another “competitive live service FPS” or “Ubisoft style open world adventure” or “extraction shooter” is going to be met with apathy. Maybe start by first figuring out what people might actually want to play instead of chasing boring trends. If you find your target audience they will cut the noise of the morons who don’t care in the first place.

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    • RamenJunkie@midwest.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      His complaint also feels like he is tired of people.complaining “This cartoon horse sim game for 10 year olds doesn’t have high def fuckable avatars, RRRRREEEEEEEE” nonsense.

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  • TehPers@beehaw.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “There are certain forums or Reddits or whatever where it’s just like, yeah, that one’s on ignore from now on. They’re not actually productive in any way,” Kaplan said. “It’s just who can get the most points by being outraged. I’m bored with it.”

    Well there’s your problem. You’re being ragebated by bots, trolls, shills, basement dwellers (the ones who don’t shower - the ones who shower are fine), and the perpetually online.

    Consider doing yourself a favor by never exposing yourself to the shit that comes out of that anus.

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    • Rose@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Well, good luck with that. I have my watch history disabled on YouTube and I watch no such content, but YouTube still pushes the likes of Asmongold on me. Imagine what it’s like for people whose history tells YouTube they like content related to gaming. Say you hear about Dustborn and you search for it on YouTube to check out what it’s about. What do you see?

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      • InabaResident@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I think having your watch history disabled probably makes that worse. If you don’t give YouTube data on what you watch, then it’ll always push the most trendy, popular stuff on you. Before I started using the Unhook extension recently, my YT recommendations never included Asmongold for example. Because YouTube has figured out that I don’t watch that kind of stuff.

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      • TehPers@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I was referring to Reddit, not YouTube.

        I use FreeTube all the time. If you are picky about what you watch, then there’s a lot of great creators on there.

        YouTube is not a forum. YouTube shorts has the same issues though.

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  • jerkface@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    But complaining about things that have nothing to do with me IS my game. :-(

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