Submitted 1 day ago by ryujin470@fedia.io to technology@beehaw.org
https://www.theverge.com/tech/799098/microsoft-windows-10-end-of-life-notepad
Many computers can get Win11 just by plugging in the $18 TPM chip to their motherboards, regardless of what windows update says.
There are a few protocols to push Win11 onto computers with unsupported CPUs, or without TPMs.
I’ve updated 6 computers that “failed” meet minimal requirements.
This is a massive scam to send 400 million perfectly good computers to landfills.
It does however mean that you can get a lot of used computers really really cheap right now
Companies are discarding pallets of them Massive waste.
Any recommendation for specific models to look out for?
Might be good to get em before all the tarrifs make computing more expensive. At least in the US.
Unfortunately, if you use either of these methods to install Windows 11, you will wind up with Windows 11. You will eventually regret it.
You can still get an extra year of security updates, though
If you submit to Microsoft and log in to your Windows 10 machine with a Microsoft account and allow them to backup your system into the cloud.
ltsc 2019 is gonna get supported until 2029, iot 2021 until 2032. you have options if you really want to stick with windows
For sure, but like expecting average people to understand the more technical side of Linux right off the bat, expecting average people to even understand that is an option is, frankly, elitist. The vast majority of humans just don’t even fundamentally understand the difference between “Windows 10” and “Windows 10 LTSC” and we’re not heading into a future in which they will all suddenly turn around and become computer literate when a vast amount of the world is barely regular literate.
We have got to stop expecting so much from average people and do a better job helping them.
I know maybe that’s what you intended to do, but if I was an average person, I wouldn’t have had any clue what LTSC and IOT meant without a lot of filling me in. Just food for thought, we have to spoon-feed this stuff to a lot of people, and be kind to them when they struggle with it.
That, and you have to be in the EU for it to happen. Americans can’t have that, and are forced to upgrade regardless. Unless they switch to Linux, they get clobbered regardless.
Americans can’t have that, and are forced to upgrade regardless.
No, I’m in the USA, this is what they’re offering in the USA, a year of extra security updates if you log in with an MS account and backing up the system to the cloud.
I’m actually a bit surprised the EU would allow it instead of just forcing MS to give everyone another free year of updates.
But I still see a potential Windows 7 situation happening, where they try to force the change, but so many people stay on Windows 10 and just accept the lack of updates that Microsoft will be eventually forced to push more security updates to not appear to endorse letting millions of machines become parts of botnets.
No, if you’re in the EU you get 1 year updates free.
Microsoft has already made this available make months ago to US and the rest of the world, but required the weird MS login and settings backup to OneDrive. This is against EU rules, and the ruling that it isn’t ok came like a month ago or so. Since then Ms has been scrambling to make this possible, but I know many people who didn’t have the option even a week ago.
If you’re in the US or most of the world (but not EU), you can enable 1 year of updates by logging in with Ms account + backing up settings once per OneDrive. This enables updates, and you can instantly undo both things again, which won’t undo the update status.
Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
It actually got me to finally embrace Linux in all its glory
djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 hours ago
Yup, I switched over when I got a new computer over the summer, haven’t had any issues on Bazzite so far. It’s really great to not have any bullshit AI spyware on my computer!
darreninthenet@piefed.social 1 day ago
Ditto… just yesterday I went all in and wiped my drive to put Mint on, decided not to bother with a halfway house or dual booting.
Apart from some minor hardware driver issues, so far so good!
megopie@beehaw.org 1 day ago
I switched over about… I suppose 2 and a half years ago now? Honestly it’s been a lot easier to use. Like it’s kind of shocking to me that people will act like windows is cohesive and better put together. Every time I interact with it these days, the more it looks like a taped together ball of junk crusted over with 30 years of repainting.
Like the fact that I have to go to three separate settings programs to find the right toggle, that every program has a dedicated installer and its own path for updates. That there are just default always on programs running in the background eating up a 1/4 of the ram and two of my CPU cores for no damn reason. That a laptop will randomly turn inside a bag when it should be asleep and run down its battery over 6 hours of trying to connect to an absent WiFi network to run updates.
Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Yeah same here I didn’t even bother with that. Just backed up some files and windows went bye bye. Even any issues I’ve had have so much support available that it’s not anywhere near as intimidating as I was making it out to be prior to switching.
mesamunefire@piefed.social 1 day ago
nice
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Welcome