Submitted 2 months ago by cuchi@startrek.website to startrek@startrek.website
I recently saw Star Trek Picard, the first season was okey, season 2 was awful, the season 3 was nice.
Acording some critics last Discovery season is bad, so now I’m afraid of looking a series who has a bad ending, it worth to watch or is as painful as Picard Season 2?
Eh, it's ok. I'd definitely rank it below many other Star Trek series, but if you've seen all the better ones already then Discovery is worth a watch
My position too. It’s not my favourite Trek by far, but I don’t get the hate.
I watched all of Discovery. It’s different, a bit too touchy-feely at times for me. But, the stories are interesting and wild.
OTH, I liked all of Picard, so maybe you shouldn’t take my view into account.
I enjoyed Picard more than I thought I would
It’s not awful. In fact it has a lot of great high points. On balance, I would say that if you compared it objectively to the first 65 episodes of TNG, it would compare rather favorably.
No. Far from it. The First half of the first season sucks, second half gets better, Second Season is really watchable, third season is where it grows it’s beard.
It’s constant flawed buildup to a promise of something just around the corner the might actually be good, that not only never ever delivers on that promise, but pulls the rug out from under you more if ten than not, rather than just providing the payoff that you probably want (I lately keep thinking back to the Klingon War)
I liked it though it did feel that the series had a tenancy to take itself maybe too seriously. Trek is best when it knows when to keep things on the lighter side and/or create ongoing gags and themes to call back to during the series. Discovery didn’t really feel like it had much of that.
Despite that it was still a good watch IMO. Burnham tended to be at the center of the series the other characters do get interesting when they got more time during the series. You should just give it a watch and decide for yourself.
Also if you want to know the backstory of Star Trek Strange New Worlds you’ll want to watch at least some Discovery, SNW is a spin-off.
And giving credit where it’s due, Discovery was the first of what became a whole bunch of new Trek shows that came out afterwards. If Discovery was that bad then none of the other newer Trek shows would have even made it to air. Before Discovery it had been a while since any new Trek shows had appeared, at some point the Star Trek universe needs new blood to keep things going. Else it’s just going to be older people talking about the original Star Trek series and TNG and it’ll just be something that used to exist a long time ago.
I really liked parts of it…from themes to characters…but found it really hard to sit through, most of the time. They had a really annoying way of rehashing everything that happened, after-the-fact…as if we needed to be constantly reminded about details that were literally from ten minutes ago.
It reminded me of the dialogue formats used in cheesy Mexican telenovelas. You can’t mention someone’s name, without also including a brief description of who they are related to, and what they’ve previously done. No one talks like that in real life. Especially when the person you’re talking to, was right there with you when that event took place.
If you remove all the superfluous dialogue, then the actual length of each episode, was less than 20 minutes.
It’s not very good, but it does have some really good moments, and some really good ideas mixed in with the less-good stuff. It’s worth watching. Just put your fingers in your ears and la-la-la through all the Klingon retconning and inappropriate pathos. There are moments where the emotional storyline are good, but they cry wolf too often.
The worst Trek is still better to watch than a heck of a lot of other TV
It’s fine. It’s probably the weakest of the modern Trek shows, but only because SNW and LDS are so good.
Discovery is my least preferred star trek I’ve watched so far, I mean, it’s not “bad” per se, it’s just different from the rest of star trek and has a different formula.
The thing with discovery is that everything happens really fast, there’s always a sense of urgency and hurry, but actual plot development happens really slowly.
Conflict takes a whole season to resolve, instead of standard one episode which you expect from a star trek show.
Also, I hate how the actors mumble instead of talking.
It’s not bad, it’s just not my favourite format.
i would watch all of the above. with discovery at the very least the first four seasons, because S2 is a backdoor season 0 of strange new worlds and S4 rocks but needs the context of the first 3. it can be very uneven but i don't think it gets bad as often as Picard did and doesn't stay bad for as long as Picard does. Enterprise is similar, a rough-at-times ride that does really pay off in S3
you're only gonna watch one, though, i'd do strange new worlds. it's essentially a return to the TOS/TNG format and has a stellar cast. and frankly you don't need to watch disco S2 to fully know what's going on, they explain everything- i only watched disco after snw S1 left me hungry for more. SNW is seemingly unique among trek shows in that every season has been less well recieved than the last, partly because the short seasons are increasingly dedicated to gag episodes, but i'd say with the exception of one particular stinker in S3, a weaker SNW episode is still gonna be better than most shows at their best
but also- you're your own person and may walk away from all of these series feeling someghing different! no harm on trying and if you hate something hey, it only cost you 40 minutes of your life
Really bad. I want some philosophy. Some slow, quiet discussions. Discovery is all bombast and action. No substance.
You need to get passed the first story arc, then it gets really good. It doesn’t really feel Star Trek™ at first, but that changes and it’s worth the journey.
Hi! I saw the first episode of Discovery, I dislike it, why a commander betray the captain in the first episode? Is like they always want to show Federation Starfleet inefficient as a rule instead of a exception?
Thanks for the comments.
Star Trek Discovery is not “that bad”. Like Picard and some of the seasons of Enterprise, each season is a self-contained story arc, which I get is not for everyone. It also has a black female main character, which apparently is also not for everyone. IMO, the fifth season was not quite as good as the first four (I actually like the fourth the best), but there was still a lot to like. I do think they did better after they moved to the 31st century so they weren’t as constrained by canon gymnastics. It also (for a single season) gives us our only non-human main ship captain to-date, which I think is a good thing in a series centered on the idea of friendship with other worlds. There are definitely things I would change about the show if I could, but on the whole I think it’s a great addition to Trek.
(Also, Michelle Yeoh, Mary Wiseman, and Tig Notaro each steal every single scene any of them is in. Worth watching for those three alone.)
One thing I did hate, though, is the epilogue on the last episode. I will skip that when I rewatch the series.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Stop at Season 2 and it’s an ok time.