Jeremy Corbyn confirms new ‘socialist alternative’ before next election to fight Starmer

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• danielquinn@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Hell yeah.

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• tal@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  new “socialist alternative” before next election

  An ever-expanding category, that.

  en.wikipedia.org/…/Category:Socialist_parties_in_…

  en.wikipedia.org/…/Cross-Community_Labour_Alterna…

  Cross-Community Labour Alternative is a minor political party founded to contest the 2016 Northern Ireland Assembly election. It stood three candidates[3] in the East Belfast, South Belfast and East Antrim constituencies. It was initiated by the Socialist Party.[4]

  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(Ireland)

  The Socialist Party (Irish: Páirtí Sóisialach) is a political party in Ireland, active in both the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland. Internationally, it was affiliated to the Trotskyist International Socialist Alternative (previously the Committee for a Workers International) until 2024.

  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Unity_(UK)

  Left Unity is a left-wing political party in the United Kingdom founded in 2013 when film director and social campaigner Ken Loach appealed for a new party to replace the Labour Party (which according to him failed to oppose the United Kingdom government austerity programme and had shifted towards neoliberalism).[5][6][7] More than 10,000 people supported Loach’s appeal.[8]

  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Unionist_Party

  The Progressive Unionist Party (PUP) is a minor unionist[6] political party in Northern Ireland. It was formed from the Independent Unionist Group operating in the Shankill area of Belfast, becoming the PUP in 1979. Linked to the Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF) and Red Hand Commando (RHC), for a time it described itself as “the only left of centre unionist party” in Northern Ireland, with its main support base in the loyalist working class communities of Belfast.[7]

  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Justice_Party_(UK)

  The Social Justice Party (SJP) is a left-wing minor political party in the United Kingdom.[2] It was launched in August 2023 at a conference in Whitby,[2] and was officially registered with the Electoral Commission on 2 February 2024.[3][4]

  en.wikipedia.org/…/Transform_(political_party)

  The Transform Party (also known as Transform Politics, or simply Transform) is a political party active in Great Britain. A merger of two political groups, the Breakthrough Party and the People’s Alliance of the Left, Transform aims to build a new left-wing political party to challenge both the Conservative Party and the Labour Party. The party is also associated with the Liverpool Community Independents and Left Unity, who remain independent parties.[1][2]

  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers_Party_of_Britain

  The Workers Party of Britain (WPB), also called the Workers Party of Great Britain (WPGB) or Workers Party GB,[16][17][18] is a socialist and socially conservative political party in the United Kingdom, strongly identified with its leader, former Labour and Respect MP George Galloway.

  en.wikipedia.org/…/Socialist_Labour_Party_(UK)

  The Socialist Labour Party (SLP) is a socialist political party in the United Kingdom. The party was established in 1996 and was led by Arthur Scargill, a former Labour Party member and the former leader of the National Union of Mineworkers. The party’s name highlights its commitment to socialism and acknowledges Clause IV of the Labour Party’s former constitution, as fundamental to the party’s identity. As of 2024, it is led by Jim McDaid.[1]

  en.wikipedia.org/…/Socialist_Party_of_Great_Brita…

  The Socialist Party of Great Britain (SPGB) is a small socialist political party in the United Kingdom. Founded in 1904[2] as a split from the Social Democratic Federation (SDF), it advocates using the ballot box for revolutionary purposes and opposes both Leninism and reformism. It holds that countries which claimed to have established socialism had only established “state capitalism” and was one of the first to describe the Soviet Union as state capitalist. The party’s political position has been described as a form of impossibilism.

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  • blackn1ght@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I wonder why these parties don’t just merge to create a single socialist party. And now Corbyn is starting another one.

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    • Samskara@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Because they want ideological purity to feel good about themselves more than actually be in power and enact change. A pretty typical leftist predicament.

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    • FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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      In all seriousness where I currently live all the small far left parties ally into a metaparty/alliance called “Together: The Left” so there’s no vote splitting and they have better chances and name recognition.

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  • Denjin@lemmings.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Splitters

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• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Farage could not have asked for better news than this. Ugh.

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  • HumanPenguin@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The idea farage can gain by splitting the Tory vote. But a new left party cannot gain when the left vote is already split to hell.

    Is just not logical anymore.

    Labour has lost the hope of such a huge % of the left wing voters. They won the last election more due to Tory non voting then labour voters.

    And that was before attacks on disabled. Authoritarian arrest of Gaza anti genacide supporters. And totally refusing to address the huge wealth gap creating the cost of living crisis.

    They have lost a huge % of polling post the election.

    So the logic that voting Labour will lead to reform. Also a vote splitting party. Rather then coalescing the left of centre vote around a new party that actually listens to left voters. Makes no sense.

    Consider these facts, Reforms percieved risk is because reform is seen to be listening to Right Wing voters post the Tory failed election. The very voter Starmer attempted to appeal to in the election. While literally dragging along a small % Left of centre voters who fear Tories.

    Labours polling shows a huge loss of trust in even the small % of left wing voters. As the Starmer government has continued the worst of Tory policies. While: increasing attacks on disabled, Censoring opposition to the Gaza genacide (imprisoning protesters for supporting an idea not their activities), showing huge curruption in accepting gifts etc (exactly like the Tory govs).

    Add to that the very insistence in refusing to raise taxes on those that have gained the most wealth over the last w decades. IE capital gains and non PAYE based ttaxes.Basically refusing to challenge the tory press arguments of any tax is breaking their promise. (Clearly a Tory press lie.)

    Over all ATM polling indicates. Without a huge leadership change and reverse in direction. Their is absolutely no hope of Labour winning the election. And not much hope of a coalition with any Left of centre party currently existing.

    The most likely result ATM is a Tory reform coalition. And let’s face it. Unlike the 2010 Lib Dems. Reform will not be changing their perceived ideals post coalition. The Tories will be moving closer to reform policy. Not the other way around.

    Labours current actions make this more likely not less. All they are doing is trying to split reforms support. While pushing more centre right in that direction.

    The only hope of a true Left of centre change. Is a left wing party willing to listen to and form the most broadly acceptable Left of centre policies. Actually forming a party (or changing an existing one but I don’t see that happening). That can win the majority of left support. Amd start to push the overton window back.

    The only true negative I see. Is Lack of a leader that can win the respect of both far left and left of centre voters.

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    • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Authoritarian arrest?! They broke into an RAF base and crippled multiple planes, FFS.

      Why do you want Farage to win so badly? He’d be awful for the country. Do you not see the damage he’s already done?

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  • jabjoe@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    FPTP is going to give us a Farage reich with less than a third of the vote.

    The voting system desperately needs changing. The left needs this more than the right as it’s always more split. It’s more idealistic, less comprising. Reform/UKIP/Brexit has been the right’s split from the Conservatives, but Labour has LibDem, SNP, Plaid Cymru, Greens and now more.

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• mannycalavera@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I think this will fizzle out and go nowhere but: should this split the red vote who stands to gain? Tories (they’ve a long way to go to win back trust ), Lib Dems (something about Student Loans making them the only party in living history to have reneged on a manifesto promise), SNP (possibly in Scotland they could be back), Greens (they’re too right wing for Corbyn’s followers 😆)… That leaves: Reform. Oh dear oh dear oh dear.

  I actually think a hung parliament under those circumstances. Great for confidence in the country.

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  • ohulancutash@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    • Tories: Leader dependent. Austerity fatigue. Watered down reform. In a fundraising rut.

    • Lib Dems: Memeable but no-one actually knows what they are about.

    • SNP: Losing ground to Starmer’s Labour anyway.

    • Greens: Still the impression of a single-issue party. A few bizarre policies too.

    • Reform: Have the man, have the PR machine, have the whipping-boy. Weakness in candidate vetting may limit seats contested.

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    • 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The Greens also have a terrible name, they’re a left wing party that don’t particularly care about environmental issues. Meanwhile the Lib Dems just stand for whatever the government doesn’t, which changes depending on who’s in power.

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  • HumanPenguin@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Sorry. But if you plan to vote labour next election. You are not a red voter.

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    • mannycalavera@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I mean I love your confidence 😜, but parties like Labour and the Tories are too broad a churches to make that sweeping generalisation.

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  • abadidonque@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If it starts splitting the vote I think it will force Labour to the left, which is where they should already be, to try and win people back.

    Labour came into power on a promise of change. In most people’s eyes Reform are the only party who actually represent that at the moment though. The thing is, most normal people hate austerity and are finding it increasingly difficult to stomach the inequality that we have, so I think a socialist ‘insurgency’, like Corbyn’s new party will be a threat, not only to Labour but to Reform. Rightly so as well.

    We’ll be able to measure their success in real-time by the level of hostility directed at them by billionaire-owned media

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    • ohulancutash@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The British electorate have little taste for socialism. That’s why it’s Blair, Brown and Starmer who have been electable, while Kinnock and Corbyn haven’t.

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