And this is why platforms are nice yet cutting the middle man is important. There was a time before walled gardens.
welp, Patreon just destroyed my stable income after a decade on the platform - what now
Submitted 4 days ago by mesamunefire@lemmy.world to videos@lemmy.world
https://makertube.net/w/gZcLvLxSmCHLDrxm8vVszU
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qyron@sopuli.xyz 3 days ago
BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 3 days ago
You kinda need a payment processor unless you want people to start mailing cash in the post.
morrowind@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
Before people ruined it this was one of the ideas behind crypto
qyron@sopuli.xyz 3 days ago
Direct bank transfers. Those are a thing.
Puzzlehead@reddthat.com 3 days ago
I always tell my kids about survival jobs. Youtube, Twitch, being an artist are all gigs. Most of these people have another job. Even professional actors have a job than acting, same as authors.
And don’t forget that sometimes websites can randomly close your account without warning and reason given. They will just say you violated their terms of use without telling you what you did.
barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 2 days ago
Years ago I tried to make a living on eBay, making up to $5K a month with an eBay store. The only problem was that they would randomly shut me down for a few days, a week, even a month, with little to no information as to why. Whenever there was information, it simply wasn’t true. There was nobody to appeal to, and any contact was met with a canned email.
Worse, they didn’t just suspend my store, they would delete it entirely, so when the suspension ended, I would have to rebuild my entire store from scratch (over 200 different items). To compound the issue, any transactions that were processing at the time of the suspension kept going without being able to make contact with them, causing lost sales and bad customer service, resulting in poor reviews that dragged my rating down. I was busting my ass to operate professionally, and my only problem was eBay itself.
Eventually, compounded with issues with PayPal, I concluded that I could never make a living using those sketchy platforms. Occasionally, I’ll buy something on eBay, but I’ve never used it to sell anything since.
Puzzlehead@reddthat.com 1 day ago
Wow, I hope you were able to move elsewhere for your online store. It sucks easy did that. There is a human you can get to but that was years ago. Last time was in 2020 when I talked to a human in chat when I was having an issue with my order.
Not sure if it changed.
foggy@lemmy.world 3 days ago
“Hey guys come catch all my new videos on my own website”
Put the old stuff on YouTube, FB, insta, tiktok, and encourage traffic to your site.
Profit.
Mocheeze@lemmy.world 3 days ago
You trying to ask creators to create stuff? Crazy talk. That’s so 2006.
teolan@lemmy.world 2 days ago
These platforms have incentives to keep you on the platform. So their recommendation algos will purposefully down rank stuff that tries to convert to elsewhere.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 days ago
Pretty much, allows you to set your own content policy really, as long as you don’t break laws the only risk then is for the domain name. Not sure what you would have to do for most domain registrars to drop your domain.
Jarix@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Stop ducking whining about it and go get a job. You act like they’re aren’t other platforms you could easily jump into, or after 10 years maybe just ask for donations in a website you can create in about a week, or an hour if your already know how to build a website and some need to learn how to do that
It’s like the vast majority of people haven’t had to deal with losing stable income their whole lives
Go touch grass you entitled… Something
teolan@lemmy.world 2 days ago
She has set up her own website. She has been exploring alternatives for years, she is on Mastodon, Peertube etc…
You’re having a meltdown because an artist is sharing whats’s happening in her life. Guess what, tons of people love that. You’re insulting someone you don’t now shit about because shares update on her work situation… With the people that pay for her work?
You’re the one that needs to touch grass.
jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 2 days ago
What a god damn stupid response. Good lord.
Patreon is the asshole, not the people Patreon is fucking. Bootlucking cunt.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Depends on what you do I guess. There’s always Kickstarter, or GoFundMe if you want to just outright beg for money. Or an actual startup. Or Etsy?
kepix@lemmy.world 3 days ago
it must be really hard to google “patreon alternative”
DmMacniel@feddit.org 3 days ago
I mean you could add this suggestion under that video, so that she sees it right?
teolan@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Indeed. She doesn’t talk about alternatives in this video, she hasn’t made other videos talking about alternatives, hasn’t setup her own website etc…
I’m not sure how she could pay her bills of she didn’t have advice from randos on the internet…
BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 3 days ago
Onlyfans!
RockBottom@feddit.org 3 days ago
We need to get rid of gatekeepers!
Ulrich@feddit.org 4 days ago
tl;dw? Watched the first several minutes but still not even sure what it’s about.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world 3 days ago
they’re removing creators’ ability to charge per creation and forcing them to charge a monthly subscription.
tiramichu@lemm.ee 3 days ago
It’s an absolutely dick move by Patreon.
I guess Patreon figure it will make them as a platform more money, because people tend to forget about subscriptions and just let them keep going.
But it’s awful for creators who release less frequently, because people will start to feel cheated when months go by and they don’t get anything. And I’m sure the creators won’t enjoy that pressure either.
It’s like Patreon are cracking the whip, telling creators “Work faster, you have to justify your monthly subscription now!”
Assholes.
psx_crab@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
Wow, that’s sure gonna fuck a lot of creator that put out content once every few months.
Ulrich@feddit.org 3 days ago
Interesting, I wonder why they would do that…
tychosmoose@lemm.ee 4 days ago
I wondered too. It was explained here: lemmy.world/post/28040267
Ulrich@feddit.org 4 days ago
They don’t really seem to know for sure either. I’d heard about the Apple issue a long time ago so it’s curious that’s it’s being brought up now.
Obligatory Fuck Apple.