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• stevedice@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’ve heard of PhDs struggling to find employment outside of academia because they’re “overqualified” (which is HR-speak for “we offer shit pay”) but surely it can’t be that bad… right? Right?!

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  • Sc00ter@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It really depends on what you specialized in and what you want to do. If youre in engineering and your university gets funding from a company, can be an easy path to employment.

    That said, in general, the type of person who wants a phd doesn’t always have the same mindset as someone who doesnt. A big part of engineering in practice is realizing when you have enough information to make a decision and how to quickly and cheaply obtain that information, and that doesn’t always align with the work scope that gives the best information.

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  • meyotch@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It is that bad. Not an impossible challenge but you have to learn whole new skill sets too. And adjust your mindset radically

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    • Kamsaa@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Omg you’re making me freak out. I had to quit academia a year and a half ago (after 7 years of postdocs) and, after a bad experience in the private sector (techy start up bitch who was just plain insane), I’ve been struggling for 10 months to find a new path and a job…and I’m still nowhere near finding something I’m afraid.

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  • cymbal_king@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve heard the concern that employers are worried someone with a PhD who is taking a “lesser” job won’t be around all that long and will continue job hunting for something better. For employers with this mindset, I’d like to suggest: 1) it’s not too hard to beat academia wages; 2) find ways to promote within/add responsibility when people prove themselves

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    • meyotch@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I know, JFC, talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth.

      Anyone who can pound sand straight up their own ass for many years and stay focused enough to produce a product sufficient to graduate will be an amazing asset in most any setting.

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  • phdepressed@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Depends on your field and thesis.

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• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  that’s the trick. don’t start your PhD in acadamia

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• starlinguk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I finally found a non postdoc job!

  I’m 59.

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• RebekahWSD@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  All I know about phds is my mother is ‘all but dissertation’ and that my mother’s husband must have done a dissertation at some point because he has a doctorate I’m pretty sure.

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• reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Postdocs get paid a lot though ours get like $11k a month for math

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  • phdepressed@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The NIH postdoc rate and therefore academic standards in most places for all biomedical postdocs is ~60k. Math is an outlier by a lot.

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    • LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I guess they have to compete with the financial sector and the likes? Over here, it varies wildly by field and by what you do.

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  • andros_rex@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I volunteered a fair bit at my college’s food pantry. The undergrads might grab one or two things. The grad students and the post docs were desperate.

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  • Fleur_@hilariouschaos.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You gotta compare this to standard industry pay for this level of education

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• jenni007@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It took me eights after my phd exam to escape from academia, so this brings back memories. Thank you.

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